Save Stonehenge! Message Board: January 2003-2005
Last updated: 19th October 2005
This is the archive of messages that have been posted to our board from January 2003 onwards. We also have some more messages you can read.
Since the closure of the campaign, we have deleted the email addresses on this page to protect privacy.
Name: Haselnuss The Bard
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City/Country: Trier/ Germany
Comments: Diese Pl�ne zeigt wieder einmal,
wie wenig respect unsere regirungen vor dem glauben haben.
Ich spreche mich strickt gegen diese Pl�ne aus.
MFG Haselnuss The Bard
Save Stonehenge writes:
This translates into something like:
"These plans show once again how little respect our governments have. I speak out against these plans."
Tuesday 08/30/2005 8:35:42pm
Name: Anon
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City/Country: England
Comments: Why do we always have to spoil things when we are supposed to protect them? No good will come of messing with the foundations of things that we still after all this time do not understand. No one knows for absolute certain what Stonehenge is for, although people like to think that they do, but it doesn't matter anymore does it, it's all about money, wads of paper with a monarchs head on it. Well once it's gone it's gone and when the stones fall don't worry the government in their infinate wisdom will probably build a bigger and better one with none of the Heart and Mystery of the other. A cold and sterile design of the 21st Century (probably computerised). No one cares until it's gone and even then most won't even notice because they can't see past themselves.
Monday 08/22/2005 1:37:56pm
Name: Beany Smith
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City/Country: England
Comments: I would like to know how many of the people who are slating the road sheme have actually read the proposals?? The visitor centre is situated totaly outside the World Heritage Site and will cause very little disruption to the local communities as the entrance will be from the A303 and not the local town. And as for the tunnel..... It will be a bored tunnel, that means it goes into the bedrock, well below any archeology that may be present. As for the expansion of the roads, surely the site of Stonehenge deserves to be returned to the landscape in which it was built, and intended to be seen. If that means making one 2mile section of road duel carrigeway (the rest of the road is allready duelled) the sacrifice (if any) to any undiscovered archeology is surely worth it.
Wednesday 08/10/2005 0:12:36am
Name: deepwood
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City/Country: America
Comments: okay people first the ley lines would not be severed by a highway ok, the universe can take care of its self it does not need you taking care of it 24/7. though i do admit that this highway should be stoped because while i am sure that they would build away from stonehenge i dont think that they will keep the highway far enough away for it not to adversly effect the eneries of the place and that should not happen. but i want to impress this on you as much as possible a single highway will not sever an intire ley line and if you are so woried please administer reiki to that planet as much as you want but i do partialy agree with you on the point of energy distruption just wanted to put in my two cents
Friday 08/05/2005 4:45:01pm
Name: Amanda
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City/Country: Brockport, NY USA
Comments: I am 13 years old and live in the town of Brockport. Although I am young, I love history and learning about landmarks. I know all the myths and the facts and everything someone could learn about the Stonehenge. When I heard that the land around the Stonehenge was going to be torn down, just for a highway, it outragged me! I really want to see the Stonehenge and the historical landmark of land around it as well, when I am older. How can they tear down land around the Stonehenge!? People for 25 generations didn't build it so the land around it could be destoryed! I just hope that one day when I visit the Stongehenge, the entire historical landmark is untouched.
Wednesday 08/03/2005 5:23:09am
Name: Martin Gray
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City/Country: Auckland NZ
Comments: I grew up in the early 60s in Wiltshire, with Sunday family picnics ON the stones....I lived through the 80s years of battles and travellers etc as a disinterested person who had little time for the sanctity of the stones and our pagan heritage....I now live in NZ and last visited this area of Wiltshire in 1998 when one can only get within a couple hundred metres of the stones themselves....and fully own the wonder now of this piece of unique history....I have also travelled widely es to places like Angkor and Borobudur etc in Asia, and marvell that they at least can accommodate visitor a hands on experience, yet the issues remain of development and commercialism.....The area and road schemes are already a scar on the landscape, though provide the only real 'fast track' to the SW that allows Devon and Cornwall decent connection with the rest of the country...I'd say the road and traffic flow could be improved without a major raod overhaul....as for the Visitor Centre, there are many good models that sensitively respect the land AND people, and NZ has created many fine one itself....maybe THAT is an area for the proposers to investigate further, in a land where we care for heritage and the land that supports us. Martin Gray
Tuesday 08/02/2005 10:29:22pm
Name: david
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City/Country: anglesey
Comments: no bypass at avebury why not what is the difrence betwen the two sites apart from the visiters.
Monday 08/01/2005 1:35:34am
Name: Edward D. Christensen
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City/Country: Warminster, Pennsylvania USA
Comments: Someone in government has seen what they've done to Newgrange, over in Ireland. I was there 2 months ago, and while the site itself was still impressive, the stones were crying out at the greed that was trying to consume them. This scheme for Stonehenge must be stopped!
Wednesday 07/27/2005 8:39:47am
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City/Country: England
Comments: I would be very interested to know what the Stonehenge Alliance believe is the correct way forward for the World Heritage Site. Simply posting links to a few unclear alternatives is not really an answer, and vociferously objecting to something without proposing another solution is hardly very politically sound.
Save Stonehenge writes: We are not the Stonehenge Alliance, so we can't speak for them. However, you can find their position statement, published in 2003, here:
http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ allianceposition050603.html
and in more detail in their closing statement to the public inquiry, here:
http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ allianceclosingstatement.html
As for our own position, that's always been clear too. We have always said that 1) Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing and 2) We were reserving our position pending the outcome of the public inquiry. We are considering the Inspector's report at the moment.
Sunday 07/17/2005 0:07:32am
Name: Robin B.
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City/Country: Lincoln, RI., USA
Comments: Stonehenge holds special meaning for me. Family research has shown that the land that it sits on was once owned by an ancestor of mine, on my Father's side. Even if that wasn't the case, I would still hold the site as special. In 1998 and 1999 I had the privilege of visiting Stonehenge. The first time the feelings I had were spiritual and overwelming and the second time as well. Stonehenge is a sacred structure....as sacred as any church, temple, or mosque.
There must be a better solution than making a 4 lane road through the land surrounding Stonehenge. Certainly hope that solution respects the land and the history it holds.
Saturday 07/16/2005 4:41:12pm
Name: Robert Vardaman
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City/Country: USA
Comments: Hmmmmm, I say, break out the bulldozers and bring on the asphalt!!!
Have a nice day!
Thursday 07/14/2005 9:18:19pm
Name: Terry Murphy
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City/Country: New Zealand
Comments: I have memories of Stonehenge going back 50 years from when many of the stones were lying on the ground and one could walk around among the stones. I know the A303 route to the West country too and of its frustrations along the two lane stretches. I can't believe that any sane person would consider that a four lane highway is more important than the preservation of the area around stonehenge. It is sheer vandalism on an unprecedented scale.If there is a need to expand the 303 it can be put in a tunnel for several miles either side of the site but even then the vibration from the traffic would probably damage the site as would ugly air vents from the tunnel. The most sensible proposal which would probably not cost as much as a tunnel would be to re-route the road entirely, taking it away from the site permanently and giving the site the peace that it needs. It is not just the stones which are important but the many acres of ground around the area which have just not been thoroughly explored yet.
Unfortunately, to this government of arrogant politicians backed by equally arrogant bureacrats none of this is important. Only that their latest pet project goes through regardless of who or what it hurts.
Thursday 07/14/2005 6:44:31pm
Name: Denise
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City/Country: Edmonton, Canada
Comments: I was at Stonehenge a few years ago and they had a model of what they intend. It seemed very appropriate. The visitor centre was quite a long distance away and people would be bussed to the site. It seemed a very respecful concept and much more low key than what we see in North America.
Sunday 07/10/2005 2:47:32pm
Name: pixieprincess
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City/Country: salisbury
Comments: it seems to me that they prefer the tunnel project(they being the governemnt) because there are (allegedly) already tunnels under salisbury and stonehenge and it would probably save them a bit of money.
Thursday 07/07/2005 9:02:03pm
Name: Mar�a Cecilia Erosa
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City/Country: M�rida,Yucat�n. M�xico
Comments: Me gustar�a poder conocer Stonehenge personalmente...desde que era una ni�a me intriga mucho...y lamentar�a poder llegar a conocer este gran misterio cuando destruyeran su entorno...ser�a como llegar y conocerle despu�s de una amputaci�n...ser�a muy triste....en Dios conf�o que proteja Stonehenge y sus alrededores...
Save Stonehenge writes: Gracias Maria. This translates as:
"I would like to be able to know Stonehenge personally... since I was a girl it has intrigued me much... and I would be sorry to be able to get to know this great mystery when they destroyed its surroundings... would be like meeting someone after an amputation... it would be very sad....in God I trust that she protects Stonehenge and its environs.."
Hope that is roughly right.
Thursday 06/30/2005 1:34:25pm
Name: Joselynne
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City/Country: US
Comments: noone should be able to damage any part of stonehenge just leave it alone
Wednesday 06/29/2005 0:33:33am
Name: john mann
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City/Country: Queensland Australia
Comments: I was conceived at stonehenge on December 21 1945 and born in Salisbury..I love Stonehenge and feel it is my home...I travel the world frequently and on my last visit to the UK in December of 2004, I was struck by an amazing and wonderful amount of continuing restoration work to a great many landmarks..eg. St. Pauls Cathedral looks almost new...BRIEFLY - we seem to have no qualms in continually restoring Crhistian edifices...SO what about Stonehenge.. Stonehenge is in its currnet state because of the passage of years but chiefly because of legal vandalism over 4500 years - frequently used as a quarry by locals and farmers. Im not suggesting doing anything other than putting what is lying on the ground, back together again. As for closing the roads and building a tunnel I am all for it..John Mann.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks John. Now there's a real claim to belonging at Stonehenge!
Monday 06/20/2005 10:16:09am
Name: Malcolm
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City/Country: Australia
Comments: 20/06/2005
As a recent visitor to your country and Stonehenge I think it is very distructive to even think a of upgrading the roads around stonehenge, If they have to have new roads move them away to a location that will not affect the great stone construction
Monday 06/13/2005 9:20:17am
Name: Neil Wintrip
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City/Country: Exeter
Comments: What a load of nonsense Their are more pressing things that we should all be taking action on. Instead of worrying about a few poxy stones, our air is pollutted & we need to be activeley working on sollutions to save our planet today, right here right now & not worrying about stupid stones are you all mad or totally stupid or what??????
Thursday 06/09/2005 4:25:53pm
Name: Ricardus
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City/Country: England
Comments: Any news on the proposal to re-open the railway Grateley-Amesbury-Larkhill-Stonehenge?
Any info- gratefully rec`d.
Save Stonehenge writes: No news. It's not a proposal, just an idea at this stage,
Tuesday 05/10/2005 8:03:41am
Name: Guy
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City/Country: Mount Annan
Comments: i like Stonehenge, its history. and anything to do with history (besides Aussie history) is cool. i think we need to save StoneHenge and disallow construction of the 4 lanehighway around it. It is a world heritage site, and is protected, so it needs to be left alone. Who knows? maybe we'll figure out why it was built one day.
Monday 05/09/2005 10:06:14pm
Name: Mercedes
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City/Country: USA
Comments: Save Stonehenge! I have a very strong interest in the mystic stones and if i have to i will fly to the UK and chain my self to one of the stones!
Wednesday 04/27/2005 2:34:34pm
Name: dave
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City/Country: s.europe
Comments: this idea to transform the area around stonehenge has been around for years and so far has come to nothing ,lets hope it stays that way ,but it's worth keeping up the pressure on the uk govt & english heritage etc . As one who used to attend the 'henge festivals and later gatherings for winter soltice & equinoxs after the events of the Beanfield (now celebrating an infamous twenty yr aniversary) up to '94 it has a special place in my soul !
Save Stonehenge writes:
Yes, the Beanfield Anniversary flyer is now on our Website:
http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ SavernakeFlyer.jpg
Wednesday 04/20/2005 5:43:04am
Name: Loch David Crane
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City/Country: San Diego, CA USA
Comments: When Stonehenge was built the handicapped and old were ignored and left to die by themselves. Now that we are more civilized I'd like to have safe access, convenient parking, proper walkways and roads, and the ability to approach and appreciate this site as I have in the past. If the improvements give access to handicapped persons, speed and efficiency to travelers, and look before they dig for historical relics--then highway improvements are welcome. I'll be there in July--hope to see you there!
Monday 04/11/2005 5:44:32am
Name: j witte
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City/Country: long beach, washington, usa
Comments: I believe that "any" modification of the landscape within 10 kilometers of Stonehenge is unthinkable ... This is a piece of ancient heritage that should be preserved at all costs not only for those in the UK and Europe, but for the whole world ...
Saturday 04/09/2005 4:41:49pm
Name: James Jared Burrow
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City/Country: Memphis/TN/USA
Comments: Living so far away, I have never been able to see Stonehenge, and if this happens I probably never will. It will still be there, but the roads will destroy the beautiful scenery. If they are going to send a road through stonehenge they should at least send the entire road through a tunnel. Or maybe they should just build a new road or something. Yes, better public transportation would be a benefit, but they could improve the transportation without destroying the scenery around Stonehenge.
Monday 03/28/2005 10:46:47pm
Name: Kevin Kennedy
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City/Country: Manchester, UK
Comments: I visited Stonehenge for the first time in December 2004 for the Midwinter Solstice Opening of the Site.
The whole experience was absolutely fantastic. Lots of people were in the vicinity, lighting camp fires, playing music, how wonderful the atmosphere was.
The only time this atmosphere deteriorated was when cars arrived.
I don't pretend to fully understand the proposed road plans but anything that is likely to cause a disruption to the tranquility of Stonehenge will not get my support.
I plan to be at the Midsummer Solstice in June but with 30,000 people attending last year, I am very concerned about the number of cars that will be in such a small area. I certainly think something needs to be done.
Do you "save Stonehenge" people have an alternate plan or do you subscribe to keeping things Status Quo?
Save Stonehenge writes: Please see our alternatives page for details of other possible plans:
http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ alternatives.html
Thursday 03/10/2005 9:47:09am
Name: Frances and Beth and Kate
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City/Country: UK
Comments: You do realise that the current stonehenge has been standing on salisbury plain for 5000 years and has been subjected to time and the ministry of defence! No matter what happens on the surrounding plain, stonehenge will not be pulled down and will probably be around in another 5000 years. English heritage is designed to protect sites around britain and although some of their decisions have caused controversy they will not see such an important site be wrecked.
Save Stonehenge writes:
It depends what you mean by "wrecked", of course. Their intention is to commercialize the site much more, double the number of visitors -- to a level that it cannot cope with -- and vastly increase the money they make from it. They are encouraging the Highways Agency to build four lanes of new road through part of the site, obliterating some of it. Whether this amounts to "wrecked" or not depends on your point of view.
Friday 02/04/2005 8:30:02am
Name: P Smith
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City/Country: UK
Comments: Unlike many of the other respondents to the message board I am in support of a road building scheme at Stonehenge. I live in Somerset and I am forced to drive to Hampshire every day to get to work due to the poor availability of public transport.
The A303 at Stonehenge is one of the worst traffic bottle necks on the A303. Frequently I am stuck on this substandard road for hours, especially in the summer. Also, it is one of the worst accident black spots where many motorists have lost their lives. The environmental damage caused by hundreds of cars sat stationary on this stretch of road is probably just as significant as any perceived damage a road building scheme would cause.
I am not saying that I want to see heritage sites destroyed, but as you have stated this scheme goes nowhere near the monument and there is no tangible evidence that digging in the area will destroy any archeologically evidence. In fact, it may revile areas of interest that have yet to be discovered. Sorry, but if you were a regular road user forced to traverse this substandard and highly dangerous peace of road on a daily basis you would know what I mean.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks for writing. You're right about public transport -- we need more public pressure to ensure more government commitment. You're right that any accident is to be regretted; your wrong to exaggerate the problem: the accident rate for this road is the same as it is for comparable roads elsewhere (see further down this message board). Logically, more lives could be saved by investing the money to improve more dangerous roads; spending money on this immensely expensive scheme will COST LIVES not save them by preventing more urgently needed improvements elsewhere.
Monday 01/31/2005 8:14:32pm
Name: Roy Newton
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City/Country: South Wilts
Comments: I would like to comment on your page referring to other alternative road plans for Stonehenge and in particular the ACT Parker Plan.
You mention that this plan has it's own objectors, quite rightly I might say. Mr Parker's plan solves one ecological problem by creating a far greater one, for not only the villages and people of the Bourne Valley, but the beautiful and almost unspoilt Woodford Valley as well.
I dearly hope that no one with authority to make the final decisions about the future of the Stonehenge environs pays the slightest heed to Mr Parker's ill-conceived plan.
His scheme treats the land south of Stonehenge as far as Salisbury as if it's a wasteland of no value, when nothing could be further from the truth.
Sunday 01/30/2005 2:13:21pm
Name: stephanie ryan
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City/Country: Manchester, UK
Comments: Stonehenge is a peaceful and beautiful place, i do not see anything peaceful or beautiful about highways.
I can't understand how taking away some of the atmosphere at stonehenge can be considered an improvement.
Friday 01/28/2005 5:12:50pm
Name: Jacqueline Peltier
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City/Country: France
Comments: Please, whoever decides to build these monstrous highways, motorways, etc., think about the serious consequences of your decisions, do not destroy your heritage thus! Have respect for what your/ our ancestors left us, and protect your beautiful English landscapes from the general ugliness which is spreading everywhere. Leave some beauty for our children.
Monday 01/24/2005 7:00:24pm
Name: ian armistead
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City/Country: u.k.
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These people won't be happy till they've turned this country into a concrete jungle! Absolute madness that must be stopped!
Sunday 01/09/2005 8:35:29am
Name: Penny
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City/Country: Canada
Comments:
This is actually incorrect.
no....they're not building a 4-lane hwy. right now there are 2 different highways (one on each side of Stonehenge). One of the highways is a 2-lane and the other I'm not sure of...but I think it is 2-lane as well. The plan is to move one of the them and put the other one underground so that the whole Stonehenge and surrounding valley is returned to how it must have looked centuries ago (with no highways).
Save Stonehenge writes:
Yes, the plan is to build a four-lane highway 12.4km (7.7 miles) long. Only the central 1.3 miles of that would be in a tunnel. About a mile either side of the tunnel there would be a brand new section of 4-lane highway, cut deep into or running at ground level through the World Heritage Site. That's what is planned.
As for returning the site to what it was: what you say is indeed the "official version" of the plan: that the highways will be removed, the landscape restored, everything will be magic and wonderful, and so on. Unfortunately, many people -- not just ourselves -- do not buy this account, not for a moment.
The British government has demonstrated, over many years, that it has little interest in conserving cultural heritage where conflicts with proposed highway schemes are concerned.
Stonehenge, the World Heritage Site defined by UNESCO, is not simply the circle of stones but the entire landscape around them. It has a total area of 6500 acres or 2600 hectares --a huge landscape -- and the whole landscape is important. It's not designated a World Heritage Site for fun.
It is risible to consider "Stonehenge" to be just the stones, as though ancient peoples did not consider or interact with the wider landscape, a landscape that is peppered with other significant monuments and features.
It is therefore perfectly correct for us to say that the new four-lane highway will not merely be next to Stonehenge (the World Heritage Site) but will pass right through the middle of it.
The opponents of the proposal include the International Commission on Monuments and Sites UK (ICOMOS-UK), the eminent, official committee of archaeological experts whose job it is to safeguard the future of World Heritage Sites in the UK. What the plan will actually involve is a massive remodelling and urbanization of the wider landscape surrounding the stone circle. Again, it is farcical to suggest the landscape will bear any resemblance to what it was like in the past if it contains a brand new four lane highway, tunnel, and two massive interchanges at Long Barrow Crossroads (just outside the World Heritage Site) and Countess.
Please don't fall for the official propaganda. Stonehenge, the World Heritage Site, will be drastically altered -- in our view, for the worst, by this plan.
There is a very detailed statement of our objections to the scheme here: http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ allianceclosingstatement.html
Friday 01/07/2005 9:27:16pm
Name: Simon Losh
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City/Country: Auckland New Zealand
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Wanton vandalism of internationally important archaeological site. Whole area should be National Park and developement closely monitored and kept to bare minimum . Sacrilege of sacred ground !!! Do not sacfice Stonehenge to juggernauts . Save for future generations . Motorways through our great cathedrals ? Whatever next!!!!!
Thursday 12/23/2004 6:39:24pm
Name: Marielle Vaassen
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City/Country: Bergeijk (NB), The Netherlands
Comments: I don't agree with those people who wants to build this highway near Stonehange and I have 3 reasons for it!
The first reason is, dat you don't have to disturb ancient culture, especially not when you still don't know everhtying from that ancient building or object!
The second reason is, that highways disturb the peace and silence near Stonehenge ... In the Netherlands we have a simular sort of problem with "De Betuwelijn" ... "De Betuwelijn" is a project where many innocent people are involved with 'cause the government is building this big railroad just across a nature monument (lots of forest where wild animals live) and also near and even THROUGH places where people live peacefully or had been lived peacefully 'cause the government bought them out because they HAD TO move to another house, otherwise they couldn't build their "Betuwelijn" (the railroad)
The thirth reason is, that the governement SAYS that it won't harm Stonehenge, but I'm not agreeing with them 'cause it DOES !!! Isn't it that Stonehenge can be damaged because they are building a highway (think about using heavy machines like bulldozers and heavy machinary to flattern the road), than it coulb happen that Stonehenge will be damaged by heavy trucks which are driving on the future's highway! It is scientificly prooved that heavy trucks and trains can harm houses ... It can happen that there are coming cracks in the walls of your home and even the fundaments of your house can be so damaged that you house can sink in the ground or just collapse in! Overhere in the Netherlands we HAVE allready this sort of problems and even those people who are living besides the place where they are making this "Betuwelijn" they are allready complaining about cracks in walls, fundaments which are dropping down at the front of the house while at the back of the house this fundaments are still okay! So their houses becoming to be not straight anymore ...
And okay, the Dutch ground is less with rocks than the English ones, but it will be a shame if such ancient building, which are the most of the time less strong than a new builded home, will be cracked and falls down!
So those 3 reasons I have to stop this buildings! I hope you will have many impact on the Brittish government to stop this foolish nonsence!
My regards,
Marielle Vaassen The Netherlands
Name:WJ Bleich
Email: City/Country:Florida, United States
Comments: Visiting Stonehenge had been a lifelong dream that came to pass in the fall of 1987.
I agree that since the site of the Stonehenge complex extends beyond the roads that run through it, consideration should be given to restore the area. The events throughout history that have left Stonehenge is its current condition are part of its history.
I think it would be a shame to alter history by changing the current state of Stonehenge. Instead, I believe that a scaled replica should be built near the sight to give tourists a view of how it once looked, (or should have looked in its entirety).
I, for one, would feel cheated to see a restored monument stripped of its history, knowing that what I'm viewing is a modern facade.
It seems apparent that the builders did not leave any written record of its creation or of their identity, and thefore, the opinions of special interest groups, (such as the Druids, Pagans, etc), should not be taken into account since they merely began using it after its original and intended purpose had already become history.
Preserve what is there. Teach about what was once there. Promote by example the importance of not altering ancient monuments, even to restore them. Even antique furniture loses its value if restored or rebuilt.
Thank you for letting me express my opinion.
Save Stonehenge: Thank you for expressing it! This website is much the richer for other people's thoughts and views.
Name: R Weaver
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City/Country: Wiltshire
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The real driver is English Heritage wants to make more money from tourists passers-by and locals. They can not understand that Stonehenge belongs to the people, those that can pay for the priviledge and those that have to use their money on other things. Now you see it free and that is galling when you could pay for: parking, the centre, the train, entrance etc etc. I agree with others that Avebury and Silbury hill is a much better outing all free with a road going through the middle and a lovely welcoming atmosphere which will not be created by the present Stonehenge theme park proposals - will there be a fun park? The problem of the A303 junction (and accidents)is simple; people going downhill to a junction go faster hoping to time their merging at the yield signs and so have more problem braking at the last minute. This means that drivers are inclined to go for a gap rather than waiting. Junctions should be at the top of rises not at the bottom. Close the junction and let the traffic use the Devises road A303 roundabout if the inconvenience is justified by the reduction of accidents. Why should tax payers money be handed out to fund English Heritage. How can an archeological site consisting of its surrounding area be protected by boring great holes through it. It isn't arch or logical? Its time to say the Emperor has no clothes! Salisbury's traffic problems are chronic (is it not also a Theme Park now?) but not insurmountable if the planners do their work.
Friday 11/26/2004 3:54:07pm
Name: Cristen Wesenberg
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City/Country:Tennessee, United States
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I am appalled that news of the impending highway has not reached (or more likely has been overlooked by) the United States News Programs. Stonehenge is not just another historical site to be preserved, it is a place of insurmountable power and undiscovered mysteries. I find it atrocious that they are actually trying to defile the land near it. I wish you all the best of luck in the preservation, and will use all my powers to aid your cause. Thank you, on behalf of people all around the world, for your interest. Agian, best of luck. Blessed Be.
Save Stonehenge writes: Thanks for your good wishes. Getting media coverage in other countries isn't easy. There has been coverage in quite a few countries now and a fair bit in the States and Canada. If you guys outside the UK can help us out by writing to your newspapers or whatever, or alerting organizations where you live, that might help to spread the word a bit more.
Name:Emma
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Comments: It seems that no one has considered disabled access (wheelchairs) in all of this. Will this 'land-train' be accessable? Do English Heritage realise that some disabled people frequently need to use toilet facilities?
It all sounds like a really bad idea to me.
Name: Richard Powderhill
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City/Country: England
Comments: This is just what Stonehenge needs! Re0opening this railway from Grateley to Amesbury is needful, then light rail to Stonehenge. You have my support!
Name:gil
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City/Country: solihull
Comments: merrymeet,What's wrong with people? stonehenge is for everyone. How would the goverment like it if us pagans desecrated there ancestors resting places.
Name: Stuart Fyfe
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City/Country:Salisbury, Wiltshire
Comments: Casual travellers on A303 will no longer have any view of the stones, or a convenient place to pause their journey.
The proposed visitor centre at a distance from the site, and land train will deter all but planned visits. Coach tourists will no longer be able to "do" both Salisbury and Stonehenge (and perhaps Bath or Winchester as well) in the same day.
Scrap the tunnel. Move the road a bit if necessary, though I don't see any reason to do so. Just upgrade to dual carriageway, and landform for safety.
Upgrade the existing visitor centre. Keep it underground. Close the minor road, turn it into a track or single width, with a resident's pass scheme.
Amesbury does not need a flyover. Woodhenge at Durrington should be expanded/reconstructed, and is my preferred site for a permanent festival location.
I'd like to see a monorail linking Stonehenge with Salisbury Cathedral Close (I've surveyed the route) via Woodford Valley, Amesbury, and eventually Avebury. It would be hugely popular with tourists, and useful for community transport.
My best experience with Stonehenge was a fund raising walk for Greenpeace that I organised with my wife, Olwen. From Old Sarum, Salisbury, over the plain along old drove roads. Cresting the final ridge, shows Stonehenge spread below, and it seems huge because one's perspective has changed by walking.
Stonehenge is a brash, Solar place. I find Avebury much more subtle and lunar.
Other useful references: www.salisbury.greenparty.org.uk/ stones// www.savestonehenge.org.uk
From Stuart Fyfe, who lives in Salisbury.
Save Stonehenge writes: Thanks Stuart. There are a number of interesting alternative transport plans for Stonehenge. Salisbury Transport 2000's Colin Hall recommended something similar, I think, to what you're proposing, a few years ago. Have a look at: by rail
Name: Colin
Email:
City/Country: Wiltshire
Comments:
Matt Longs message makes sense, and your reply only quotes highway figures. I work dealing with the accidents caused by the stonehenge junction on too regular a basis to be just brushed aside with figures. If you had to scrape up the remains of humans you would perhaps see things in a different light. This junction needs closing now and the A303 made into a dual carriageway past Stonehenge, not buried in a tunnel which would be just as dangerous, but perhaps a cutting. All the hype about Stonehenge and its so called natural setting is just that. Stonehenge is in the setting that has evolved over a long period of time and any changes are part of its evolution. No attempt should be made to put the clock back as this would just destroy it. All you moaners about how wonderful it is should try living near it and you would soon change your minds, it gives nothing to the local community but headaches. By all means worship it if you must but the money intended to be spent glorifying it is criminal when there is so much more it could be spent on across Britain. As for the proposed visitor centre this would be better sited in the triangle formed by the roads around Stonehenge albight as far back as possible which would at least leave the residents of Amesbury unblighted by the hideous design that would be the centre at Countess roundabout.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks for that Colin. You make good points:
* Our reply to Matt's post quotes highway figures only because Matt himself quoted them... but not quite correctly. We did go on to say that more lives could be saved by using the money elsewhere, which you agreed with. Certainly not suggesting that the human cost of accidents comes down to figures on paper although this is, unfortunately, how they tend to be considered and dealt with during the roadbuilding process.
* We also make the point, which you agree with, that the A303/A344 junction should have been closed many years ago.
* We also agree with what you say about Amesbury and the Visitor Centre; there will be a major impact on the local community there (especially Countess Road residents). We completely support the Countess Road Residents Group in their campaign to oppose the proposed visitor centre at Countess East.
So we do actually agree on quite a lot. I don't think many people would support the idea of a surface road through the middle of the World Heritage Site, however. I think the options on the table are:
1) Do minimum -- i.e. close the A344/A303 junction now and make other relatively minor adjustments to sort out traffic problems.
2) Tunnels of various lengths. Many people agree with your view that this is a complete waste of money; others think the tunnel should be even longer and even more money should be spent.
3) Routes that take the road outside the World Heritage Site, such as the ACT Parker Plan. But they potentially blight other areas and are controversial for entirely different reasons. Perhaps you'd support an option like this that would widen the A303 but keep it well away from Stonehenge?
Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.
Wednesday 11/03/2004 2:33:01pm
Name:Corrine Jones
Email:
City/Country:St. Austell Cornwall
Comments: Although I no longer live in Wiltshire,it is where I grew up. I spent many a happy hour up at the Stones,and was appalled when they closed them off to the public. I do not see the reason for widening the road along that section of the A303.My husband and I have travelled that road many times with no problems.Having said that there are places along that road that could do with widening,I do not think they shoulddo any thng to disturb the stones
Name: Marco-Angiolo INNOCENTI
Email: City/Country: PARIS - FRANCE
Comments:
Que deviendra l'humanit� de demain si elle aura oubli� tout de son pass� et meme ses vestiges ?
Merci, Marco!
Save Stonehenge writes: I think this translates roughly into: "What will become of humanity tomorrow if it has lost sight of its past?"
Email: City/Country: Kalamazoo U.S.A.
Comments:
Stonehenge must be saved it is a part of history no matter what you believe. It is also a religious site to religious groups. Taking this away is liking taking away a part of your ancestors and with a sense of who you are. So I ask in all respect not to destroy or this place. thank you
Saturday 10/16/2004 12:14:04am
Name: Alice
City/Country: Rome (Italy)
Comments: I really don't believe that! They can't damage Stonehenge! It's an Britain symbol! (Oh, I'm Italian but I really love Stonehenge and its landscape!)
Monday 10/25/2004 9:21:30am
Name: Matt Long
Email:
City/Country: Wiltshire
Comments: I live within 20mins of Stonehenge, and if you knew the roads nearby then you would understand the reasons behind the road improvements. Of course we dont want one of the great wonders of the world damaged, but safety is a key issue, over 22,000 cars pass through the nearby villages, and the rate of accident is higher than other roads of its size, so i agree something must be done, and the government is trying to ensure its the best overall solution! ps i am currently writing my third year university dissertation on this subject!
Save Stonehenge replies:
Matt, What you say is perhaps a little misleading:
- If you look at the Highways Agency's own figures (presented at the public inquiry earlier this year), you will find that the accident rate for the road is the same as the average rate for roads of this type, to within three decimal places. The rate for this road is 0.229 "personal injury accidents" (PIA) per million vehicles kilometers; the national average for roads on this type is 0.226. The Highways Agency conceded at the public inquiry that traffic levels are low relative to other strategic routes.
Obviously we should make reducing accidents a priority, but in a broader context than just Stonehenge. If you're really concerned about safety, as you say, you will appreciate that the money from this scheme would be better invested in reducing the accident rates on other, more dangerous roads.
- If safety is a key issue, as you suggest, why did the Highways Agency not close the A344 years ago, as UNESCO has been requesting it to do since at least 1986? That would remove the dangerous A303/A344 junction and improve accident rates immediately. Answer: because that undermines their case for a big new road.
- It was agreed by the Highways Agency at the A303 Inquiry that the A303 improvement was not justified on transport grounds. In other words, there is no sound economic case for the road using a traditional cost-benefit analysis (COBA). The road would not even be in the roads programme if English Heritage were not (scandalously) using heritage funds to help pay for it.
- If you're worried about the amount of traffic on local roads, you should look with some suspicion at the case for a massively expanded Stonehenge visitor centre. The aim is to DOUBLE visitor numbers... so what will that do to traffic on local roads and in local villages? You might look at the Countess Road Residents Group website (http://www.stonehenge-crrg.org.uk/) to see what other local people think of both the road and the visitor centre plan.
- If you want to read a detailed critique of the Highways Agency's traffic and transport case, please take a look at the Stonehenge Alliance submissions to the public inquiry. There's a summary in the second part of this page
Best of luck with your dissertation. If you'd care to send us a copy when you've done it, we'll be pleased to put it on the Website.
Friday 10/22/2004 1:29:41pm
Name: barryboredomwrites
Email:
City/Country: UK
Comments: At present Stonehenge is a mess. All of you who sit at home complaining. I advise a visit and see how tranquil and spiritual it is when an Heavy Goods Lorry goes passed, followed by another then another. I think the lay lines have been deleted by all the pollution.
Sunday 10/10/2004 3:45:54am
Name: KRLH
Email:
City/Country: Australia
Comments: I'm only 13 and I know how important Stonehenge is. It wont only lower tourists but it will effect our world. Stonehenge is magical and one of the things in a world of evil which you can look upon and have hope.
Friday 10/08/2004 1:16:15am
Name: Pam EKins
Email:
City/Country: woodstock/canada
Comments: Hold it! don't scroll past. Im 12 but i got a lot to say about Stonehenge I think there is something magical in it or else there would be no reason to bulid it. We should let it and the things that created it rest in peace. Not have highways and stuff going by it. Its a peacefull site that needs to be kept whose with me?
Thursday 09/30/2004 11:21:39pm
Name: Andrea
Email:
City/Country: Nixa, Missouri-USA
Comments: unbeleivable, from Ireland I am, and it makes me sick.
Tuesday 09/28/2004 3:30:03pm
Name: Caroline Guerin
Email:
City/Country: Dublin, Ireland
Comments: This is a tragic development, a demonstration of the power of the building industry run amok. There is a similar horror story unfolding in the Boyne valley in Ireland, where planners are intending the bisect the Boyne/Skyne valley, home of probably hundreds of uncharted archaeological sites, and near the famous Hill of Tara. There is an online campaign to stop this development, please have a look and show your support:
http://www.livejournal.com/ community/save_tara
Friday 09/24/2004 1:36:10pm
Name: Willow
Email:
City/Country: Brisbane/Australia
Comments: I'm very surprised by what's happening and ashamed that theres people out there that could do something like this.Your ancestors would be turning in their graves.It's a magical site not only to the people of your country but to the world in a whole.Don't live for the dollar.Wake up before it's too late..
Wednesday 09/15/2004 11:18:03am
Name: Sainthere
Email:
City/Country: England
Comments: WHAT are they thinking off ! This is a magical place and has to be left alone for all us little people to see and try to understand ! WHO comes up with these idea's they can't just go around ripping up the land. This has to stop now.
passing this on to everyone I know.
Keep up the great work. I hope they remember what goes around comes around
Tina
Monday 09/13/2004 8:26:06pm
Name: albina
Email:
City/Country: ottaw,Canada
Comments: I am a dedicated witch and, am very concerned as to what is going to be planned for Stonehenge.
Stonehenge to me has always been a magical place. One of which a person can find peace and quiet.
I am a poet, and would be happy to write something for preserving of Stonehenge.
Bright Blessings
Albina
Tuesday 09/07/2004 2:26:30am
Name: Timothy Blake
Email:
City/Country: Townsville Australia
Comments: The Stonehenge is sugh an amazing site I think that it deservers more than what it gets at the moment
Monday 08/16/2004 6:07:14pm
Name: izabel farrall
Email:
City/Country: rayleigh essex u.k
Comments: this should not happen and if anyone would like to contact me over this then feel free to do so. i cannot help much at the moment as i have just had a baby but i can send emails and snailmail letters so every little helps i hope to here something from you soon.
blessings and good health to you all
izabel
Saturday 08/14/2004 6:30:22am
Name: Chad
Email:
City/Country: USA
Comments: LEAVE STONEHENGE ALONE! There should'nt be a road that close to stonehenge to begin with. This is a special place!
Thursday 08/12/2004 6:48:48pm
Name: ulrika fenderl
Email:
City/Country: 82515 Waldram / Germany / Bavaria
Comments: I�m inarticulate with rage. I need thinking...
Thursday 08/05/2004 1:44:27pm
Name: Ptp
Email:
City/Country: Ontario, Canada
Comments: This is not acceptable, it is time to draw a line and stop this rape of the countryside and sacred sites, for to long sacred sites have been desecrated, for excuses that are to numerable to go into on this board.
If the traffic is to heavy, then live with it or use another route, in 20years from now when the last of the gas (petrol) has run out or become so expensive then the traffic volume will be reduced dramatically, to a 1960/70 level, but the damage to the area will still remain both in this plain and the others.
Im originally from the Uk, so I know the area and the problems associated with traffic in that local, but this rape of the countryside will stop one way or another.
So carry on the fight to stop this construction.
Best regards
Rvr, Cobham
Friday 07/16/2004 11:07:12pm
Name: Briga
Email:
City/Country: England
Comments: I have a page on my website to direct people to your campaign because I care about our sacred and ancient sites -and this one is even better than mine so would you do me the favour of visiting
www.heritageaction.org/ thornborough.html and helping us with our campaign as we help you
Wednesday 07/14/2004 8:01:57am
Name: Gwydion
Email:
City/Country: Everett, Wa. U.S.A.
Comments: I didn't get the chance to read your entire site, but if your government works like ours does motivation(self) and money is what drives them. Being a Druid I would very much like to visit STONHENGE and the entire Salisbury plain. If there is a major freeway within 20 yards of this, walking the plain would be exteremley difficult and not to mention dangerous!! Hate and destruction seems to the montra of the new mellenium. It is always easier to destroy than to create. These stones were created by a people that were at one with everything, Druids or not, these monuments STONEHENGE,WOODHENGE,the ABURY Stones everything on the plain should not be put in any more danger than modern society has already put them in. The old track from LEWES to WILLMINGTON has already been cramped by modern cities and buildings. I dont want to see STONEHENGE barely accessable like the TUMP. We need to keep the world intact as a great writer once said. "The songs of our ancestors are also the songs of our children." The site should be left intact for our children, if nobody else.
Thursday 07/08/2004 11:24:46am
Name: Jennifer
Email:
City/Country: united states ohio
Comments: I can not believe that our society in this time would sink so low. the reason why they don't care much to build on the sacred stonehenge site is because us pagans and others are not a main religion anymore and i believe that they think that they can get away with it. I wonder how things would go if we were to try and build a road on the site of a sacred christian temple i am sure they would never let that happen and i believe that we should stand up for ourselves and put a foot down and stop this madness. it is very sickening that they can not instantly realize that they can find another place to put the new road. So i say stand up and do all you can to stop this madness. Blessed Be and good luck.
Monday 07/05/2004 12:06:53am
Name: CC
Email:
City/Country: chandlers ford
Comments: i may only be 12 years old but i still want to help. i am using this topic as an english assessment to raise awareness.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Great! We need more people to talk about it and discuss the issues. Good luck with your assessment.
Monday 06/28/2004 4:09:58pm
Name: Reigna
Email:
City/Country: United States
Comments: Scratches Stonehenge off places to visit. Who wants to visit in the middle of road construction? Did the British Government even consider the impact the construction will have on tourism at all? Although the highway will not be built through Stonehenge itself, did the British Government think about how the added pollution will affect the monument? Look what is happening to the Great Wall of China and that's just from people, not cars. I do hope the British Government will reconsider what they are about to do, or at least try to find an even better option. Once a monument is gone, it's gone. There's nothing you can do to bring it back.
Save Stonehenge writes: Did they think about these things. Erm....
Saturday 06/19/2004 6:59:16pm
Name: welsh chris
Email:
City/Country: swansea uk
Comments: oi oi oi holy pagan ground leave it well alone
Thursday 06/17/2004 1:14:24pm
Name: Gareth
Email:
City/Country: Wiltshire
Comments: I used to drive past StongeHenge every day. In all honesty there is a need for a 4 lane bypass and if the government has suggested an underpass I feel this is the best option. Traffic around this area is a nightmare, and with the added pressures of tourists slowing down and stopping on the main road (Not the "back road" to & from Devizes that also has the tourist parking) and causing accidents just for a peek, I have to admit that an underpass wouldn't be a bad idea. You should feel grateful that the government isn't suggesting replacing both the current roads with one 4 lane road that isoverground. The extra millions they are prepared to spend to have the landscape remain virtually the same is quite a significant step. For anyone who's been there (And I bet its not even 50% of this sites viewers) and for anyone who passes regulary you have to know where I'm coming from. Please understand that I am not anyway against stonehenge and I believe that we need to protect our heritage but the government HAS to do something and I think its come up with the best option.
P.S. what do the donations people give this site go towards? The web site is relatively cheap to run, I run one for free myself! Shouldn't this be done for the love of the area, therefore money not an issue?
Save Stonehenge writes: Thanks for your views, especially about the transport situation. You can read a detailed response to most of those issues here:
http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ allianceclosingstatement.html
For example, accidents on the current road (although obviously always regrettable) occur no more often than the national average rate. So there is no better case for a road here on those grounds than anywhere else.
Thanks for asking about donations: 100% of the money donated through this site has gone to the Stonehenge Alliance, a coalition of British environmental groups. The money was used to fund the Alliance case at the recent public inquiry. Even though most people worked on the inquiry for nothing, it still cost about 11,000 pounds. (The government probably spent millions of your money on that inquiry, by the way.) The website costs -- and most of the other campaign costs -- are minimal and we bear these ourselves.
Monday 06/14/2004 0:40:00am
Name: Angela Bryan
Email:
City/Country: Plymouth, UK
Comments: This looming catastrophe has just been bought to my attention by a friend. It is heartbreaking to find that in this day and age people would rather disrupt a site that is sacred to so many people than find an alternative to our man made congestion problem. Will the destruction of tradition, history, and all sacred beliefs never stop?
Sunday 06/13/2004 4:00:21pm
Name: Claire Brook
Email:
City/Country: Plymouth, Devon, UK
Comments: I am walking from Plymouth to Stonehenge and back camping on route as a personal pilgrimage, if I can help with the save stonehenge from the highway in some way let me know, I'm at Plymouth uni and am 20, thanks, Claire Brook
Save Stonehenge writes:
Cool! Good luck Claire. Have a great trip and tell everyone you meet about the threat to the World Heritage Site!
Friday 06/04/2004 0:27:40am
Name: starfox
Email:
City/Country: leeds/ England
Comments: As a witch I have vowed to protect all that is living so I wish tony's Cronies no harm. However, this is a total disgrace and must be stopped. This is another example of this government's determination to erode everything that is pure and good about England. Just because this is not a Church Synagogue or Mosque does not make Stonehenge as less holy site. For the Wiccan way this is one of the few and most holy places in the world. They tried for years to keep us away at the Salstice, now they have had to allow us entry they are going to make it as hard to worship there as they can.
Saturday 05/29/2004 1:39:48pm
Name: angela bennett
Email:
City/Country: rugby
Comments: How dare they. the damage that this will cause via the vibration of lorries and the pollution that will cause damage to our birthright is obscene. they should all be laid out on the sacrificial stone and offered up to appease the gods...preferably painfully.
Sunday 05/16/2004 7:04:15am
Name: Rachael Hensel
Email:
City/Country: Missouri USA
Comments: I think it is wrong of these people wanting to disturb a beautiful, magickal, spiritual and one of the world wonders. I was very shocked ot hear about it, all I can say is they need to leave of past alone. They have no right to mess with it. They didn't build it, so they have absolutely no right to disturb it. I am rather upset over the idea.
Wednesday 05/12/2004 1:51:29pm
Name: Gahmuret
Email:
City/Country: Pittsburgh, PA, United States
Comments: In the name of the once & future King: I'm not sure how I could help, being an American, but one who'd love to visit Stonehenge. Knowing the Circle would remain isn't much comfort if the highway would mess up the horizon. & in the name of the Queen of Infinity. (http://sodalicium.org)
Monday 05/10/2004 0:48:25am
Name: Jenny Skillen
Email:
City/Country: Newcastle, Australia
Comments: I have been to Stonehenge three times when I visited the UK and I was disappointed at the time that the road was so close. It seemed a travesty that the sacredness of the site was disturbed. I feel the current plans to create tunnels and further roads through the surrounding area would be a great injustice to the site yet again. It does not sound like a good solution...think about it again and come up with another one. The whole world cares about what happens to Stonehenge and the creation of a highway is not an important enough reason to disturb such an important World Heritage site and the surrounding valley.
Yours sincerely,
Jenny Skillen
Sunday 05/09/2004 9:34:47pm
Name: tina
Email:
City/Country: colorado/usa
Comments: As a thirteen yr old I walked and touched each and every stone at Stonehenge and I know now that one can no longer do this. Please keep this sacred place intact and keep the bulldozers out!. Here in my country they have ruined many sites in the name of progress. It's time to take care of our heritage!!!
Monday 05/03/2004 1:38:54am
Name: Archiver Omega
Email:
City/Country: United States
Comments: As a frequent international traveler, I have witnessed many intolerable cruelties of the world. But I must say that never in all my lives and existence on the face of Gaia, have I EVER come across a more destructive objective than that of this highway project. It is absolutely neccessary to maintain the balance & quality of the enviroment of the StoneHenge Site. This project would not only have great enviromental consequencesm destroying the surrounding eco-systems, and natural wildlife habitatsl; but yet it would also have a great spiritual impact to the heart of England. To decimate an ancient artifact that well outdates 10,000yrs is a complete and total abomination of all that humanity has to offer. This project must be halted. It cannot proceed to undermine the very legacy of England herself. Should this barbaric decision to decimate thousands of years worth of respect & beliefs be achieved, then what is next to face the chopping block? The Pyramids? The statues of Easter Island? The Coliseum? The Aztec temples? Nay I say to you this must not be. Our two worlds of Past & Present must learn to exist side by side. One must NOT be allowed to destroy the other.
May the Goddess keep an ever watchful eye over this troublesome occurance, and see justice fit.
Sincerely,
Archiver Omega
Head Master of The Archive
Sunday 04/25/2004 8:02:56am
Name: Stephanie
Email:
City/Country: Tennessee
Comments: What's next? There is no doubt in mind that if this were a discussion about a major Christian location, the plans would never have been brought to light. After all you dont see a freeway running through the Vatican City. I understand it is not "known" as a religiou site, but to some like me, I believe so. It was there for a reason and maybe we will learn the truth soon but it wont mean anything if it is gone.
Tuesday 04/20/2004 10:20:43pm
Name: Sara
Email:
City/Country: MN, USA
Comments: Personally -- and I have thought this opinion through -- I truely think that any project that requires the use of a bulldozer should be rethought. This includes Stonehenge projects. If the damage is irreversable, you had better have a pretty darned good reason for causing it.
Quicker transport is not a pretty darned good reason.
Especially if it violates even a corner of a historic site.
If Stonehenge isn't important enough to drive AROUND, what is?
Saturday 04/17/2004 9:01:09am
Name: michi
Email:
City/Country: Thun /Schweiz
Comments: Un paese civile non distrugge paesaggi che rappresentano l'origine della cultura del suo popolo! Rovinare il sito di Stonehenge, sarebbe come abbattere le piramidi in Egitto, tirar giu' la Muraglia cinese, far esplodere il Colosseo... ma siamo pazzi????
Thursday 03/25/2004 4:03:27pm
Name: Fedelma
Email:
City/Country: Padua - Italy
Comments: Nessuno osi toccare la campagna attorno a Stonehenge! Quello � un posto sacro per molti di noi e per la memoria di coloro che prima di noi hanno calpestato queste terre.
Save Stonehenge writes:
This translates into something like:
Nobody should dare to touch the land around Stonehenge! It is a sacred place for many of us and for the memory of our ancestors who lived on those lands.
Friday 03/19/2004 1:55:15am
Name: Natasha Shaikh
Email:
City/Country: Toronto Area/Canada
Comments: I know the whole public thing is over, but I'm still doing whatever it takes. Stonehenge is important to me. In fact, I was appalled that the government would allow such a horrific thing to happen. Deeply disappointed and compassionately involved!
Monday 03/15/2004 4:41:17pm
Name: Mary Neasham
Email:
City/Country: Suffolk England
Comments: Just adding my name to the growing list of objectors to any changes to Stonehenge.
Its bad enough that they fenced it off lets stop it getting any worse!
Motorways by stealth, yeah probably.
With any luck the petrol will run out before the bulldozers get a look in!
My daughter did the 'Stonehenge Road Project' at school three years ago,the school seemed most interested in knowing the opinons of the students in her year at the time.
I wondered if this was a nation wide opinion poll by stealth at the time?
Or not, who knows?
Good luck with the campaign.
Mary
Monday 03/15/2004 4:09:37pm
Name: Andrea
Email:
City/Country: Freeport, Maine USA
Comments: I was astonished to read the plans for the motor way to be built under stonhendge. The energetics and the historical significance of this monument would be damaged. There has got to be another way to move the traffic without encroaching onto or under Stonehenge. UK Government, spend the $$$ and change the plan. You dont know what you've lost until it is gone.
Email:
City/Country: Houston,Tx USA
Comments: I've never seen it up close and I was planning to go see it when I was more mature and through with college. I've seen it on magazines and on the internet when I was in middle school and I promised to myself that one day I would go and visit this cool site. I can't believe that they are trying to tear it down. I hope they'll leave it be so that one day I can go see it all in one piece liked I promised.
Save Stonehenge writes: Jesse, the stone circle is not threatened (we hope). What's under threat is the area around it.
Wednesday 03/10/2004 7:32:29am
Name: steve
Email:
City/Country: leicester
Comments: I travel the length and breadth of our beautiful country and often wonder at the natural beauty of what is and our forfathers a heritage that is and allways will be the envy of the world such natural monuments to a past age should be sovoured by todays generation and preserved for the future and to find this desecration to put a motorway through just beggers belief?? to destroy and it will stonehenge ....whats next a theme park at hadrians wall with of course a motorway to get u there ?????? perhaps the ancient battle sites with candy floss stalls and kiss me quick naseby hats with of course ????? a motorway to get me there ???? god help this country
Tuesday 03/09/2004 5:56:12pm
Name: guy rondel
Email:
City/Country: Nice South of France Europe
Comments: Hi,
Although I live in the South of France, I was raised in England in a town called West Drayton and often went down south west. I very strongly, support your action against a motorway over Stonehenge, which I remind everyone is classified as part of UNESCO treasure and therefore shouldn't even be touched by ratty people. I'm also a Wiccan and feel particularly concerned about such places. You have my full support as I said. I hope to be coming to England this summer maybe around the 21st of June if I can, I hope to see Stonehenge still standing. Till then, good luck, and think positve.
all the best guy!
Sunday 03/07/2004 11:24:03am
Name: Ian Cuthbertson
Email:
City/Country: Glasgow, Scotland.
Comments: I am registering my very strong objections to such a planned motor-way project encroaching in any manner whatsoever, upon the UNESCO World Heritage site of Stonehenge.
Saturday 03/06/2004 6:45:16pm
Name: Muireann Ni Bhrolchain
Email:
City/Country: Maynooth, Ireland
Comments: I am horrified at what is happening in Stonehenge. But we are also experiencing a similar case here in Ireland where the Government has sanctioned a motorway through the Tara/Skryne Valley that will pass on two side of Tara's Hill and there will be a spaghetti junction to the North that will be clearly visible from the Hill.
They have also allowed an incinerator to be build 5 miles from Newgrange, a World Heritage Site.
We would appreciate your support also.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Sounds horrendous! Suggest you send details to Road Alert if you have not already done so. Good luck!
Sunday 03/07/2004 11:24:03am
Name:
Ian Cuthbertson
Email:
City/Country:
Glasgow, Scotland.
Comments:
I am registering my very strong objections to such a planned
motor-way project encroaching in any manner whatsoever, upon
the UNESCO World Heritage site of Stonehenge.
Saturday 03/06/2004 6:45:16pm
Name:
Muireann Ni Bhrolchain
Email:
City/Country:
Maynooth, Ireland
Comments:
I am horrified at what is happening in Stonehenge. But we are also
experiencing a similar case here in Ireland where the Government
has sanctioned a motorway through the Tara/Skryne Valley that
will pass on two side of Tara's Hill and there will be a spaghetti
junction to the North that will be clearly visible from the Hill.
They have also allowed an incinerator to be build 5 miles from
Newgrange, a World Heritage Site.
We would appreciate your support also.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Sounds horrendous! Suggest you send details to Road Alert
if you have not already done so.
Good luck!
Saturday 02/28/2004 6:22:55pm
Name:
An unhappy correspondent
Email:
City/Country:
UK
Comments:
Save Stonehenge writes: We received this email and thought it
would be good to post it here for balance. Thank you to the writer
for his comments. We hope you don't mind us making them
(anonymously) public. Our reply is underneath.
What a disastrous and disgraceful way to make your case. No
recognition that the existing site is a mess and that something has
to be done; or that a welcome is due that anything at all is being
proposed. Instead a hysterical misrepresentation of what is
proposed and not a whisper of any suggestion of your own. Part
of our heritage is respect for constructive criticism; you don't
appear to have heard of it.
I had hoped to get from you a reasoned account of the pro's and
con's of what very obviously is a very carefully worked over
scheme; instead I can only hope that this is not an example of the
way in which you ordinarily comment on schemes.
Our reply:
Many thanks for taking the trouble to write.
Our website was set up because the Department for Transport was
deliberately refusing to allow consideration of alternatives to its
scheme. If you care to explore our pages, you will find 1) An entire
page of "Other views" setting out all the other organizations'
views on the scheme, including the official position, with
appropriate links; 2) A page of alternatives setting out all the other
options currently proposed. Our position -- that we don't
recommend any one alternative until the public inquiry has
evaluated them -- is also explained somewhere. Perhaps all these
things don't immediately leap out, but our site is large (more than
100 pages).
We have never said the WH site as it stands now is acceptable. I
think you're right and, at some point in the future when we next
update, we will make this clear. I'm not aware anyone is arguing for
"Do nothing". That doesn't excuse what is proposed, however.
There are reasoned accounts of the pros and cons of the scheme
in the documentation submitted to the public inquiry by various
groups. This evidence hasn't all been heard at the inquiry and
we've not put it all on the site yet. However, if you look at our
Inquiry page
you will find Outline Statements of Case from various groups that
will, I think, give you what you were looking for.
Although you might find our site unbalanced -- it is and it's meant
to be -- it does, nevertheless give a lot of space to other groups
and other views, which is something the Department for Transport
does only grudgingly and only with "lip service" to democracy:
the contract to build this road was signed two years before the
public inquiry opened and I think that says it all.
Unfortunately, our website attracts a huge diversity of "custom".
While people such as yourself might find it "disastrous and
disgraceful", many other people find it too tame. We receive many
letters and emails criticizing us for not taking a more radical
approach! Unfortunately, one can't please everyone with a single
site. But there is a great diversity in the information we make
available and I would urge you to explore beyond the emotive
front pages to some of the more detailed, reasoned information
behind it.
Thank you very much for sharing your views. We do take them
seriously even if we don't necessarily agree with what you say.
We certainly respect your constructive criticism.
Monday 02/23/2004 12:33:07am
Name:
storm
Email:
City/Country:
Merseyside england
Comments:
I think that this is a prime example of the big wigs yet again making
one of teh biggest cockups ever.We have already lost enough of
our natural and rural areas/monuments due to these so called
intelectuals I would happily sit in front of the ghets to stop them
completing this monstrosity
Sunday 02/22/2004 3:47:34am
Name:
Sara Doucet
Email:
City/Country:
Fort Bragg, NC
Comments:
Wow this sucks, I'm a Brit married to a US Military member. I have
alway's had a close affinity to Stone Henge being raised in the
South of England, I remember the first time I visited Stone Henge
as an 8yr old 30yrs ago, on a school trip, back then you could still
touch the stones. I distinctly remember walking around being
totally overwhelmed by the energy their & touching them when
the other kids were just playing around. I am now a psychic
medium here in the States. It almost brings me to tears to think
their is such a lack of caring about such an important place in the
world, some just don't realise how important. Makes me mad that
my husband puts his life on the line along with so many others to
protect the world & Greed & progress are slowly destroying it in
the background.
Wednesday 02/18/2004 0:02:44am
Name: Karen Howie
City/Country: Canada
Comments: This is such an outrage, I can't imagine anything similar being done to the Ancient Pyramids - damage the surrounding landscape and you dessimate history, not to mention the known energy vortex that all sensitives know exists below this very special and arguably sacred Wonder of the World. For shame!
Tuesday 02/17/2004 4:37:57pm
Name: marcusjames
City/Country:
Comments: the photo of stonehenge is misleading. show a photo of the stones and the two roads choking it. get some perspective in this argument its tunneling to the side and not underneath. maybe I see it from a different view but remember when you do visit think of what you imagined the site would look like and what is there in reality as you stand there with traffic wizzing past.Personally I wish they could build a road which bypasses the monument all together.
Save Stonehenge writes:
The Parker Plan (one of the options now being proposed) would effectively bypass the monument though, as others have said on this message board, it has other drawbacks. We have pages on our site outlining that plan at:
http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ actparker.html
They're a bit out of date, but we've just been sent updates and will fix them shortly.
There's no ideal solution, unfortunately.
Tuesday 02/17/2004 1:13:41pm
Name: Andy
City/Country: Winchester
Comments: I live next door to Twyford down,i saw what they did to it,now theres an ugly great motorway cutting.So much will be lost if the developers get the goahead to build this tunnel.Stonehenge isnt just the megaliths ,its the whole site.
An ancient place of power.
Andy's website http://www.spiritofold.co.uk
Sunday 02/15/2004 8:51:14pm
Name: Shirley Breakfield
City/Country: Park Hills/ USA
Comments: I cannot believe what I have just read. What is wrong with everyone of you? Have you lost your mind? What is your point? Let people be take a few more minutes to get where they are going. Stonehenge has such beauty, magic, power and majesty, how can you even think of destroying the site?! Do you know how much history is there? More than enough I am sure that you don't see it or care to see it. That place is awesome and it humbles me. What Neolithic man accomplished way before his time is a feat that is rare. Don't destroy Stonehenge. If you do that, how long will it be before you start picking at other sites and the rest of the world follows you? Is it really worth destroying your heritage just for the name of advancement? Who cares, leave it alone please!!! I haven't seen it personally but I plan on visiting it and other sites in England. There is so much history to still find and progress is more important. I just don't believe what I have read. If you do it, you are all very blind to what is most important in this world. I sinerely hope that you change your mind.
Sunday 02/15/2004 7:45:22pm
Name: spanner
City/Country: Southampton UK
Comments: I occasionally travel through the disgusting Twyford Down cutting...I'd heard plans for Stonehenge ever since I lived in Wiltshire as a child, but I had no idea this was going on.
Over my dead body!
Save Stonehenge:
Or UNDER YOUR DEAD BODY if they build a tunnel? :o)
Monday 02/09/2004 2:42:46pm
Name: cazann
City/Country: croydon
Comments: just simply leave it alone!!!!!
stone henge is a spirituall place.
Monday 02/09/2004 1:06:18pm
Name: marcus james
City/Country: uk
Comments: yes i agree. there isn't anything spiritual viewing the stones with HGV vehicles going past at stupid speeds. I've been lucky emough be allowd within the stones and I can tell you the vehicles certainly detract from beauty and magic of the circle. For camparision visit some of the stone circles in Cornwall which are off the beaten track and hear the difference.
Sunday 02/08/2004 4:54:55am
Name: Matt
City/Country: USA
Comments: I think that your government might know what stonehenge is because they are trying to destroy it. Though I live in the USA I still think that you shuld choose what will happen to it not the government. Now I have never belived very strongly in the government and this is one of the reasons why, cause they want to feed the industries, And that is their main concern and the people should be their main concern. I've seen alot of things in the us but I wold most deffinatly trade all of that in to see stonehenge just once.
Thursday 02/05/2004 6:43:21pm
Name: David Stevenson
City/Country: Reading, UK
Comments: I'm gobsmacked at some of the stuff written here. A tunnel taking all the traffic AWAY from the stones is long overdue. As is the bypass to take the traffic away from the residents of Winterbourne Stoke.
This scheme MUST go ahead in my view.
Wednesday 01/28/2004 2:25:55pm
Name: MoonRat
City/Country: Wales, Uk
Comments: Visiting Stonehenge is something I'd love to do and plan to do this solstice, to reconnect with a site both ancient and inspiring is something I would love to do, especially with the opportunity to see handfastings and other rituals. I have been pagan for a while and yes the path feels right for me, to worship nature comes as naturally as an ability to walk, sing and breath.
But why oh why? Yes I'll admit I don't drive and I am in no hurry to learn (Hey, I'm a student, so shoot me!) but at the same time, whilst people whine about congestion and the hassles of travelling along busy motorways, why can't they build this horrible motorway elsewhere instead of raping an ancient site of historical, archaeological and spiritual significance?
{Picture this in a decade time, maybe our kids will look at the mistake made and think how @#%$! silly we were. That such a selfish and stupid decision was made to take away a part of what little culture we have left.
Over all, I find the plans disgusting. And my opinion shall not change. Life is too short to go tearing the country down and suffocating mother earth. Sometimes I wonder what happened to public transport...
Monday 01/26/2004 9:28:22am
Name: Caroline Probyn
City/Country: Blandford
Comments: The biggest and saddest myth is that building new roads might decrease traffic problems. Traffic problems will only start to decrease when travelling by car becomes so impossible that our social structure has to change ... ! or people find alternative means of travel that doesn't involve on person per car on a long journey to somewhere !
Bigger roads just encourage people to think that there is an endless amount of natural space to chew up in the name of 'getting places'...and it will go on until there is no space left.
We are losing sight of all the other things (apart from road travel !) that we need for our survival ... nature, the wilderness, beauty, sacred places ... etc etc etc ...!!!
Where on earth will the soul go when the planet just looks like a ball of string with cars on it !?
Monday 01/26/2004 2:12:35am
Name: Marilyn Roberts
City/Country: Freehold, NJ, USA
Comments: Just because this planet is becoming way too over-populated does not mean that we can tear apart every critical aspect of our history that makes humans unique. Its something we'll regret later anyway! Really, we would regret it.
Sunday 01/25/2004 9:09:54am
Name: Scott
City/Country: United States of America
Comments: Tonight was the first time that I heard about the property management problems at and around the Stonehenge Site. I'm not very Globally Connected. And my knowledge of that area is not sufficient for me to Offer the "Best Solution" for the problem(s).
I can, however, state very clearly that the monitary cost "Should Not" be the deciding factor as to how the problems should be resolved.
Stonehenge "IS" not "WAS" a site which is both sacred and mindboggling. It's a once-in-a-forever-time thing. It deserves to be treated with reverence. Not just lip service.
Living in the States, I am only too painfully aware of how "National Tresures (Like our National Parks) are subject to being treated as trinkets themselves and are subject to the horrors of traffic and tourists. This is not to say that there should not be visitation. Just the opposite. But to me the area is as Sacred as Mecca (if not more). I say find the best solution - then if it's a cost problem - ask George Bush for some green - it's at least as valuable of an area as is Iraq.
Thursday 01/22/2004 9:05:50pm
Name: Richard Borrett
City/Country: Allington, Wiltshire.
Comments: Having read the comments below, I am shocked by the number of people who seem to be misled about the very purpose of any changes to the road around the Stonehenge area. The very reason this was brought up by the National Trust and the Highways Agency was to alleviate the historical site of the pollution, both chemical and noise-based, that it experiences from the current location of the A303.
The building of a tunnel will, as far as I can see (and I am not an impartial observer, i have certainly made a point of reading the relevant documents) the proposed Tunnel will do just this. It may be the case that some sensitive archaeology will be lost, but the loss in historical value would be far greater, would it not, if the current 'World Heritage Site' were to be damaged further by traffic.
I would also like to comment on the 'ACT Parker Plan', as a proposed alternative. Not only would this plan fail to remove traffic from the A338 to the extent claimed by Mr. Parker, it will also destroy another piece of beautiful English countryside, the Bourne Valley. At Least 12 Miles of it. Much of the traffic that currently uses the A338 will continue to do so (as advised to me by the owner of a local Transport Company) and so those living near the A338 will also have to suffer the traffic of the A303; the two roads being within, in some places, 150M of one another. Surely, therefore, this road cannot be called, as it is by Mr. Parker, an A338 Relief Rd.
I will admit I live in this area, but my home would not be as affected as some by the plan, and therefore my objection is merely on the grounds of common sense - The proposed costing for the parker plan is based upon a hap-hazard government mile-by-mile figure, not taking into account bridges, landscaping, compulsory purchase of land and compensation - in the form of triple glazing etc - for local residents.
Those affected should look around... now and make a properly informed decision before the public enquiry - your chance to have your real say - in less than a month...
Wednesday 01/21/2004 4:21:21pm
Name: joe public
City/Country: uk
Comments: I've made a banner saying 'whose heritage?-no road' and I'm thinking of displaying it in front of the press at the summer solstice along with handing out a press release saying..."churning up this area is like building a motorway in front of the taj mahal or between two pyramids. The whole area of over 2000 hectares surrounding stonehenge is a world heritage site and if the road widening goes ahead-It'll be tarmaced over my dead body+no doubt many others.The area is one of the last remaining relatively natural areas in this ever-greying country and there are thousands who will defend it to the last, for the enjoyment of generations to come." I'd only give the press this release as previous dealings with them has left my fingers a little burnt. I'd very much welcome any comments....is it a good idea or not....last thing I want to do is scupper any plans 'save stonehenge' has made. comments to joepublic23(at)***********(dot)com
thanks for reading
joe public
Sunday 01/11/2004 4:14:18pm
Name: alex ramsay
City/Country: Allington (Bourne Valley) near Salisbury
Comments: I have just read the previous 4 comments. I have lived here all my life (28 yrs to date!) and for those who do not know Stonehenge well, there are already two roads there - running either side of it. One is a main route, and the other, not quite so, but it does still carry a fair amount of traffic too.
Yes, building two tunnels will cause disruption, but once completed, it will also provide the same solution as proposed in the Parker Plan - no traffic near to Stonehenge, and those visiting will get a sense of what it was like all those years ago .... (bar the odd jet flying nearby from Boscombe Down of course).
Don't get me wrong, something needs to be done, the A303 that runs next to Stonehenge is carrying more and more traffic every year as it is the main route to Cornwall and the West Country from London and the East. A dual carriageway will be needed at some point.
So where does it go?
a) on the current road
b) underground, on the route of the current road
c) via the Parker Plan route
a is a big no no - we might as well knock the stones down altogether.
b is the current plan - shortest route, and achieves the goal
c much longer route, but can also alleviate some other problems in Salisbury itself.
However, the Parker Plan does not address traffic going into and out of Salisbury, only that which is to go around it.
Surely if the A303 runs right next to Salisbury, we'll enjoy even more tourism than we do now - a good thing for many people of course, but we're running the risk of choking this medieval city by making it too popular (if there is such a thing!). One day Salisbury will become a medieval bubble attraction, with huge car parks on the new, nearby Parker Plan A303...
Ok - I'll come clean, we don't want the A303 running down the Bourne Valley do we? Allington (visit us at www.allington.ip3.com) is a beautiful village, and one of many. The Parker Plan A303 will kill this valley, it's businesses and inhabitants.
The twin tunnels HIDDEN froom view at Stonehenge are, to my mind, the best solution available at present.
Merely my opinion!
Kind Regards, Alex.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks for some balance Alex!
Friday 01/09/2004 5:23:23am
Name: R.F.
City/Country: Roselle,USA
Comments: I don't know what to say except that I'm shocked.What's wrong with those people? How can they even consider getting close to a beautiful and historic site with all those roadways? It's all about the money,isn't it? Oh,they're so broke they can't afford to spend more money to go around it. Please,spare me! Like the last person said,I guess nothing is sacred anymore. I wonder what Prime Minister Tony Blair says about this. I did go to the Stonehenge Project Website to voice my opinion. I wish you all fighting this the best of luck...........
Friday 01/09/2004 5:10:06am
Name: Ian ,and Karen
City/Country: Gabriola island canada
Comments: I have never been on nor seen this sacred site. In this life. But feel a great deal of reverence and respect for those who left those of us to come in the future this powerful symbol and sign ,which to this day has never been fully understood or explained.At least not to the masses. I,m sure there are those who do realize,the significance of these gifts. I feel intuitionally, that one reason it is so magneticallyenergized and draws souls from all over the world is enough of a clear statement . there is a great deal of wisdom ,to all who enter that place with no judgement, and an open heart.Mother Earth herself may need this for her own healing and balancing. what we cannot explain, with our own limited understanding,should never be corrupted by the energy of greed, profit, monotarily speaking.It could possibly have a negative detrimental effect, As I think we on this mother earth cannot turn away from anymore.I read in afew reputable sites. some of these sacred sites are here for a great and loving good.I pray that those souls who are in power to pull the strings and make desicions which could have reproccussions,could be making a mistake that would be a painfull cross to bear ,Let,s pray that all of our hearts and minds become like an innocent uncorrupted child.and ask for wisdom understanding discrimination and divine guidance and receptivity in handling this situation. Love alone is the strongest power in all of the universes.May you all be blessed with the pure light and peace ,wisdom beyond all understanding. Namaste In divine friendship. Hari om
Tuesday 12/23/2003 9:44:51am
Name: Brandy
City/Country: Yorkshire, ENGLAND
Comments: So it's come to this has it? Once again, the British Government rides roughshod all over this country!!! I hope to blazes this ridiculous idea does not bear fruition, I mean what's next then, a new motorway through Avebury?? Flatten Silbury Hill for a Travel Inn? Plough through the Rollrights in Oxfordshire? Is nothing is SACRED anymore? This cannot be allowed to happen!!!!
Save Stonehenge writes:
'Fraid so Brandy. Expect all these things to happen soon... unless...
Wednesday 12/17/2003 5:19:00am
Name: Rev. Cliff Horman
City/Country: Australia
Comments:
Greetings Fellow citizens of the world
I would like to urge the british goverment to not go ahead with this plan... This is a sacred sight to many millions and a national landmark to many more.
I believe the sight should be left alone...i has been tampered with far to much already...this is our herritage and should be protected at all cost.
I am English by birth and visit the sight as often as i can. I am Clergy man of the Correllian nativest Church here in Australia... I am the paramount first director for this group and feel on the groups behalf i can seek this action to end..
Please think of this Blessed sight for what it is..sacred to us all..
Merry Part and Blessed Be
Rev. Cliff Horman
Paramount First Director
Monday 12/15/2003 11:39:25pm
Name: Bruce MacCormack
City/Country: Golden/Colorado/USA
Comments: Please don't let them proceed with their plan to destroy the areas around Stonehenge.
Monday 12/15/2003 1:53:20pm
Name: Teri Schott
City/Country: Wisconsin, USA
Comments: Stonehenge has, is and always will be one of the oldest and most cherished part of history. Altering the grounds in any way takes away from the original site that as a historical landmark should be left untouched.
Monday 12/15/2003 2:59:07am
Name: Kristina Adams
City/Country: Canada
Comments: I just read about this today and I think the idea is absolutely rediculous. Why would the British Government want to build a theme park around or near Stonehenge. It is something that does not deserve to have something like that happen to it. The government will be saving money by not building this. It's absurd. Stonehenge has been a mystery for everyone for years and years and I think it's best left like that. Building something like a theme park around it will take away that mysteriousness of Stonehenge. We do not want to see something like this happen and destroy the wonder and amazement of it. So, all I have left really to say is......LEAVE STONEHENGE ALONE!!!!!
Sunday 12/14/2003 6:34:32pm
Name: Holly,11
City/Country: UK
Comments: This is disgusting! I'd heard nothing of stonehenge being ruined until today! How can they do that? HOW CAN THEY EVEN THINK ABOUT IT?! Stone Henge is such a historic beautiful landmark, it cannot be ruined. Highway lilay we have enough of those freakin' things already.
Friday 12/05/2003 2:10:36am
Name: Blackpanther
City/Country: Camp HIll Pennsylvinia , USA
Comments: I am a pagan, stonehedge is a very important place to me. It has such a rich history. I starting to think people don't care about history no more , They need to think that that area is part of their history if not theres the worlds history.. IT would be very dispointing if the british goverment will let this happen
Sunday 11/30/2003 5:39:01pm
Name: CARLOTA REGINA
City/Country: OLINDA/BRASIL
Comments: STONEHENGE IS A PIECE OF HISTORY,OF CULTURE.THE ENGLISH GOVERNMENT CAN'T LET IT DISAPPEAR.
Monday 11/17/2003 3:24:41pm
Name: morgaine of the faeries
City/Country: England
Comments: i can not believe that they are going to do this! the roads already near stone henge are enough, but to acctually want to put another in, not to mention spending the tax payters money whilst doing it...! well! i may only be a young student but i do value the remaining scared sites we have left...its like some one saying 'im going to build a road through your local church!' not only are the stones themselves scared but the ground around them is also hallowed!!!! i could rant about this for a while and longer but i do believe my anger is justified, i have however taken action too, by filling in & printing off the complaint letter and asking many of the students at my school to do the same i hope that i am able to be of some help to stop these plans from taking place.
Monday 11/17/2003 7:12:29am
Name: Krissy
City/Country: Australia
Comments: I don't think that it is a good idea for them to build a highway near Stonehenge. Stonehenge isn't Stonehenge without the beautiful landscape that surrounds it. It just wouldn't be the same I guess, although I have never been there.It would be ashame if I do get to finally see it and the landscape around it has been dug up and ruined cause of the highway. In my opinon I don't think it is a very good idea.
Sunday 11/16/2003 4:00:15pm
Name: Lynn
City/Country: UK
Comments: Three things:
1. Light pollution: The proposed lighting for the new motorway would prevent further important research. Do we really know that Stonehenge was used ONLY for observing sun and moon? And do we really know why its builders wanted to observe sun & moon? Anyone who understands just a little about ancient oriental astronomy would be very narrow minded to claim that Stonehenge provided calendrical information merely to calculate when to sow, when to harvest, etc. Just because we percieve some correlations between solar and lunar motion and Stonehenge geometry doesn't necessarily mean we understand all of Stonehenge's potential or intended functionality. However, the motorway light pollution would prevent (a) stellar observation and measurement and (b) further nightime lunar observation. This motorway will prevent us from discovering anything else of significance about Stonehenge.
2. Vibration: Could the vibration from vehicles, and especially low frequency vibration from heavy trucks, and ultra low beat-frequencies, damage or destroy the foundations of Stonehenge, as well as damage or destroy other nearby relics. Have any measurements been taken over a sufficiently long period (several years of precise movement and vibration monitoring) been performed as part of the engineering surveys?
Twice I have spent 48 hours alone in caves about 1 to 1.5 miles from a mororway. After a few hours of silence I could hear and sometimes feel vibration from motorway traffic. To be able to feel such vibration means the bedrock itself was transmitting vibration from the motorway. This doesn't mean such vibrations are harmful in every case, but has anyone proved conclusively that in the case of Stonehenge there will be absolutely no damage in the very long term (i.e. within and beyond the lifecycle of the motorway.
3. Congestion: I am constantly amazed at the lack of realistic planning for these kind of road schemes. Do the design engineers really understand and apply queuing theory? If they did, then there would be a reduction of queuing, wouln't there? Motorways cause increased queuing from time to time and the resultant congestion causes increased pollution, therefore increased erosion (more fuel combusted to travel less distance in more time - ie more carbon pollution per mile/hour, therefore an increased impact on global warming as well as increased local pollution). Has anyone come up with a realistic prognosis for Stonehenge?
We know, especially through research conducted at Reading University, UK, that an increase in motor exhaust does correlate with infant hyperactivity, adolescant aggression and petty crime and reduced levels of intelligence. Stonehenge is frequented by millions of families, all of whom could be exposed to increased pollution instead of being able to enjoy some respite from their already polluted home towns.
Finally, do we really need to debate this? Clearly, the volumes of traffic we see today are not sustainable - is it right to destroy and polute great swathes of such rare countryside permanently to satisfy some very short-term profit motive? That is what I call very low-IQ planning.
Wednesday 11/12/2003 7:45:38pm
Name: Liam O' Brien
City/Country: Colchester, England
Comments: I think building a road or anything near stone henge is a disgrace the only thing they should build there is a sign saying "no bulldozers!"
Wednesday 11/05/2003 2:00:31am
Name: David Noakes
City/Country: Falmouth Cornwall
Comments: We lost Stonehenge when English Heritage seized it from us and locked us out. Even the Druids, who were the ten Israelite tribes who migrated west as Celts, aren't allowed in, not even just once a year. English heritage is like a vast American Corporation that treats people like an irrelevant commodity to be bled dry of every penny. As they won't let us have Stonehenge, lets have the road.
Tuesday 11/04/2003 2:42:19am
Name: Leo Sinnott
City/Country: Franklin, Louisiana USA
Comments: Can't believe it. Hope to see it one day. Somebody save me a pic before the limes mess everything up, again...Like when they lost the whole world and now their country to the (*&$$$$.
Saturday 10/25/2003 4:56:47pm
Name: Kalimab
City/Country: Scunthorpe, UK
Comments: I've already signed back in May and just wanted to add:
1. As a voter I want my MP and government to understand that I do not approve, or in any way uphold their plans. Widening the A303 will NOT reduce traffic congestion - road alterations elsewhere have already proven this - do we really need to repeat the painful lesson, and then when irreparable damage has been done to the Stones, throw our hands up in dismay and look for something else to destroy/damage?
2. To those who've said its PROGRESS and we ought to move with the times I ask, "How is patching a symptom (widening roads) going to cure the illness (traffic congestion)?" And is constant scrambling for short-term solutions without due care and caution really true progress? If it is, why is mankind in such desperate dire straits?
The government wants us out of our cars and on to public transport...so... fix the public transport system - ensure that it operates safely and efficiently. Make it more appealing, more reliable and more people will use it. End result? Less traffic congestion and probably much cheaper in the long term.
Tuesday 10/21/2003 9:52:26am
Name:
City/Country:
Comments: Well, the fat is in the fire. The sh*t has hit the fan. Who is cranking the handle? Who is stoking the fire? The wierd virus is doing what it does, for the want of something to do. Where is my teleportation ticket? I'm sure I left it here somewhere. Balls, I must have put it with all the other leftovers rotting in some dark and foul decaying place.
Get naked with the apes. That's what I say. Whoops, not many of those left either eh. So this is how far Human Kicks have gone. Just leave it all alone. Leave it alone. All of it. Hell, try saying that to the steel capped boot.
I understand there is an underground water system intrinsic to Stonehenge. The tunnel may very well mess around with that also. The point is, once the land has been destroyed, it is gone. Gone for good. No more.
Read your history. Find the patterns. The difference between what is said and what actually happens. Hell, I don't know. I'm just making it up as I go along.
err that err that err that's all folks.
Tuesday 10/07/2003 6:46:54pm
Name: Noelle
City/Country: Maryland, US
Comments: This is sick. Building a HIGHWAY through the park?! Are they insane? They'll be destroying artifacts that are perhaps buried that we don't know about, not to mention bringing in pollution, noise and otherwise, into this sacred site. Having a four lane highway run underground near the cicle would really cut a huge hole in the flow of energy of the place. How can they do this?! They MUST be stopped!
Thursday 09/25/2003 9:22:30pm
Name: Jon Cleland Host
City/Country: Michigan/USA
Comments:
Oh yeah - and weren't there a lot of Britains who were outraged when the Taliban blew up those ancient Buddhist statues? Are those people silent now? If so, why?
Thursday 09/25/2003 9:14:04pm
Name: Jon Cleland Host
City/Country: Michigan/USA
Comments: Hi-
Has anyone taken the really long term view of this, I mean like hundreds or thousands of years? Eventually, the tunnel won't be used anymore, and if not filled (like we know if anyone will do that then), it will eventually cave in. If that happens, then the actual stone circle will be destroyed. By digging a tunnel, are we setting a time bomb to destroy Stonehenge centuries or millennia from now? Might a tunnel be the worst possible option?
Jon Cleland Host, Michigan
Tuesday 09/23/2003 5:12:07pm
Name: Carina
City/Country: New York/USA
Comments: As an American, I have little say when watching my government step in and plow down houses and trees to expand our polluted highways for the supposed "good of our people." But I am deeply moved and saddened to hear that such political beauracracy can destroy such an ancient and sacred land. You have (I have heard) such a beautiful countryside full of grace and such pastoral scenes...I can only imagine. Whatever will become of it, if people continue to destroy and mar the land? (Need a hint??? Come visit New York State.) What a waste!
Friday 09/19/2003 2:27:33pm
Name: Krista
City/Country: Eugene, USA
Comments: This November I will be 30, and almost all my life I have read and heard many stories and legends, and my favorite has to be Stonehenge because from what I know, its mystery hasnt been solved yet, and to tear it down befor we even get a chance to know why its there in the first place is a mistake. Besides its apart of history, apart of why so many people make plans to visit Europe in the first place. Saving Stonehenge not only shows respect to whoever/whatever made that magnificent landmark, but to history and the people who get inspired by it. I know for a fact that they can probably find somewhere else to put the darn roads, or are these people ruled by their pocket books and popularity contests or whatever gave them this idea in the first place because they were not using the brains God gave them to do this. Europe has alot of wonderous/mysterious history and they shouldnt tarnish it by doing this. I have been telling my own children about Stonehenge, and they should be able to tell their children and so and not have to say "on this roadway used to stand a very mysterious stone strutcher called Stonehenge"
Thursday 09/18/2003 5:01:10pm
Name: Shadow Walker (Jen)
City/Country: USA
Comments: I heard about this some time ago but stumbled upon this site once more. Even though they are not tearing down the structure itself they are still destroying sacred ground.
In one post can't remember who "It' like telling the Pope that we are going to take over the Vatican". Not in those exact words but to the point.
I am going to try and do what I can to help this case out.
Brightest Blessings!
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thank you Jen!
Wednesday 09/17/2003 8:00:33pm
Name: Emma
City/Country: UK
Comments: Hi all,
I sent a message to this board the other day to express my saddness of the proposals to build a motorway near stonehenge.
This email extends my sadness to what else is happening at stonehenge. On my recent visit there I was disappointed with how the place felt. I went there in the expectation of visitng stonehenge as sacred place full of peace. How wrong was I. When I got there it wasn't long before I felt that the atmosphere wasn't right. I do have a hightened sense of energies and it didn't feel that good. I was offered a audio guide to listen to whilst looking at the stones. I refused. I didn't want to have a audio guide plugged to my ear whilst trying to take in the atmosphere of this great monument.
I felt that stonehenge had been turned into a tourist attraction, a place to make a bit more money no doubt. I also felt people didn't have respect for this sacred place, it felt like people were just there to say they had seen stonehenge they hadn't really gone to appreciate it.
It really saddened me. I felt sorry for the people that had all that passion to build such a sacred place. I wonder what they would think of what is happening to their stones?
The visitors at stonehenge should be controlled to a better level, to prevent shoving and pushing. Also people should be drawn to this sight to come and respect it and maybe sit for a while in peace to take in its energies. Rather than sitting on the grass having a picnic with loud conversation, as someone did while i was trying to have a tranquil moment.
May be 'the people in control' will come to their senses one day and return this monument back to a place that can be respected and looked after as it deserves to be.
will stop going on now, best wishes to you all
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks Emma for adding the extra info!
Monday 09/15/2003 7:47:52pm
Name: Mossup
City/Country: From far away
Comments: Druids from all around are comming, we are on our way.
Remember the days of no cars and roads?Bliss wasn't it.
Monday 09/15/2003 4:16:35pm
Name: Emma
City/Country: UK
Comments: I am very saddened to hear of these proposals to make the road near Stonehenge bigger. I visited Stonehenge for the first time with my husband in August and we commented at the time of the road that was already there spoiling the atmosphere of Stonehenge, what will it do, to make that road even bigger?
Monday 09/15/2003 1:31:00am
Name: Sue Faller-Jackson
City/Country: Canada
Comments: It just make me sick, how would people like it if we said that we are moving the Vatican. Ok Pope time to move out...
Monday 09/15/2003 0:50:35am
Name: Jenny
City/Country: Manchester, NH USA
Comments: I just stumbled upon this site, and am in complete shock! Why would someone want to ruin such a beautiful landscape with a roadway? I've never been to Stonehenge, and most likely will never have the opportunity -- being pagan, it's a place I'd love to visit & feel its magical qualities. There is too much destruction of historic landmarks, rain forests & such in this world. Please take your construction elsewhere!
Tuesday 09/02/2003 9:23:16pm
Name: Morwen
City/Country: United States
Comments: I cannot believe anyone would be so blind as to even propose anything that would disrupt Stonehenge. It is a sacred, beautiful place created by our forefathers. It is important to science as well as religion, and disrupting it in anyway is insanity. Putting a road through the surrounding area of Stonehenge would be like putting a road through the middle of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem! It seems to me that it is yet another attempt by modern civilization to take a stab at the Druids and their descendents.
Monday 09/01/2003 7:09:41pm
Name: Lee Plummer
City/Country: Beaver Falls, PA, USA
Comments: I've been to Stonehenge and let me say that if you visit it you will never aquire the same feeling in your life. There's something special about Stonehenge, I'm not sure what it is but it is almost magical. To be in presence of Stonehenge is to feel blessed. As it is, the roadway next to it is problematic, if it were to expand the whole atmosphere of Stonehenge would be obliterated. Stonehenge is an enigma that should not be threatened.
Friday 08/29/2003 6:26:43pm
Name: Cindy
City/Country: Idaho,USA
Comments: I would like to visit Stonehenge someday. The surrounding country-side is beautiful. Who knows what else is buried or hidden there?
It would be a disgrace to destroy such a beautiful setting.
thanks
Cindy
Friday 08/29/2003 6:10:16pm
Name: dagaz
City/Country: vienna austria
Comments: when i first found this site, i thought this must be a hoax! even in times of the blair bush project, the british gvt cannot be so unsensitive as to destroy such an asset of its cultural heritage (and in the case of a site like stonehenge, we're talking not only of britains heritage, but of a place that is sacred to people all over the world). isn't there an EU commissioner for cultural affairs? if so, s/he should be informed of this ghastly criminal plot!
Thursday 08/28/2003 12:38:30am
Name:
Karl
City/Country:
UK
Comments:
I'm afraid Arthur, that you seem to have overlooked the fact that if you are driving
along the A303 you are causing the nightmare. The way to escape it is not to make
the A303 bigger - every piece of credible research shows that if you do this it will fill
up again and you'll be back to square one in a very short time (the good old M25
syndrome). The way to escape the nightmare is not to drive down the A303. If you
do drive down it, then you've no cause for complaint.
BTW, I visited henge for the first time this solstice (well, the almost solstice -
calendar not big enough EH?), having been dispersed from the vicinity under the
Public Order Act when I last went near it in 1992. It's nice that a tiny step has been
taken towards returning the stones to proper free access for the people to which
they were left and from whom they were annexed. I think firm steady pressure would
be the ideal way to continue the job and suspect that the idea of the road scheme is
to provoke a confrontation, thus giving an excuse for the authorities to undo the
progress that has been made since the dark days of a few years ago. The challenge
is to manage the protests (even if there is a public inquiry, I'm sure everyone
realises that it's unlikely to find against the scheme) in such a way as to keep the
public onside.
Wednesday 08/27/2003 3:49:55pm
Name:
Arthur
blackdog(at)lycos.co.uk
City/Country:
UK
Comments:
I really think that all you protagonists of the environmental movements should
think a little more practically. If any of you have ever driven the awful A303 you will
know that it is a nightmare. There is a desperate need for a motorway link between
the south and southwest of England. A bored tunnel beneath the Wiltshire
landscape is much preferable to a wide expanse of motorway on it!
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thank you Arthur. What the current proposal offers is 6.4 miles of "wide expanse of
motorway" on the Wiltshire landscape; only 1.3 miles of it would be below ground.
Opponents of the scheme include the Association of Salisbury Council Taxpayers
and the Amesbury Countess Road Residents Group, neither of whom are
environmental groups. What everyone wants is a good alternative, not a poor
compromise.
Monday 08/25/2003 3:29:16am
Name:
Elizabeth
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Fallon,NV USA
Comments:
Someday I will visit Stonehedge, and though I am not of this decent, my paganism
lies in it's heart. To destruct something, or even, distructs around something so
sacred is immoral and wrong. It is sacred ground. A religious monumunt. A
mystery. This one place mean so many diffrent things to people. Please, take your
construction or land destruction else where.
Sunday 08/24/2003 3:24:42am
Name:
chasely
E-Mail:
City/Country:
sydney
Comments:
new technology hes ruined enough stuff buildings remove rainforests and there is
other stuff so now is the time to take action
Saturday 08/23/2003 1:49:25am
Name:
Gretchen
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Pennsylvania, U.S.A
Comments:
One day I hope... no... One day I will visit Stonehenge, to take in it's beauty, to
reconnect with my family roots, and to see what the landscape might have looked
like in a great many years past. Having a major traffic pattern close by will only take
away from the land surrounding this great landmark, and destroy any unknown
history that might be buried within the sacred ground that is to become torn apart
and have pavement put on top of it. With all of the technology that we have at our
fingertips today... there has to be another way of doing this without harming the
surrounding areas.
Save Stonehenge and it's lands.
Thank you.
~~ Gretchen ~~
Thursday 08/21/2003 8:39:57pm
Name:
Rowan
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Cape Girardeau/USA
Comments:
I may not be a British citizen, but my heritage dates back to the
British Isles and Ireland. The sacred Stonehenge site should not
be tampered with.
Tuesday 08/19/2003 2:46:45pm
Name:
stephanie
E-Mail:
City/Country:
canada
Comments:
i realize we as humans are always trying to explain the
unexplainable,it's in our nature to explore however most of us
don;t realize that some things are meant to be untouched,,wether
they plan on tearing it down or not has no bearing on the issue,,it
is a sacred site for many people and i dont think we should be
disturbing such places,,,
Saturday 08/16/2003 7:22:45am
Name:
D . McCraw
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Franklin NC
Comments:
Please leave this area alone .many peolpe travel thousands of
miles just to veiw this site.This adds to England's economy and
besides who knows for sure just how and where the stones were
placed there. I know I wouldnt ever want to make the powers that
be (THAT MAD).I know several young ladys(16,17 yo) that
worked hard to earn money to travel there just to visit the
stones.This site is truly a work of art would you distroy a great
master peice. well thats what is happening here
PLEASE...PLEASE. STOP NOW
Wednesday 08/13/2003 1:02:52pm
Name:
C Peace
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Birmingham
Comments:
This is totally unaceptable, they should be putting money into
Stonehenge and the surrounging area not destorying it.
Save Stonehenge:
They have this slightly crazy idea that they can preserve the place
by trashing its surroundings. Erm...!
Tuesday 08/12/2003 3:50:21pm
Name:
Rebekah
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Bonby, North Lincolnshire, GB
Comments:
Stonehenge is not only a magnificent structure within the
landscape but a part of our heritage. It is a place of not only great
archaeological significance but a place shrouded in mystery and
ritual: a place where ancient ceremonies are still carried out today.
This government has done nothing but destroy; not only another
nation, but our relations with other countries. Their intent to
continue such abominations draws the conclusion that they
should be ousted
Tuesday 08/12/2003 2:34:43pm
Name:
christine
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Peterborough, Cambs, UK
Comments:
English heritage? bah humbug. Leave the site alone-simple isnt it?
Tuesday 08/12/2003 1:13:00pm
Name:
Louise
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Leicester
Comments:
I think that this country has so much history that we can only be
ashamed of, our total disrespect for the people and the culture of
other countries and our quest for power and contol over the years
that has unfortunately left a trail of destruction that still resonates
today (and still goes on today.) I feel that we, as English people,
should be allowed to hold on to something that we can actually
have a little pride in. A part of our culture that has not been stolen,
adopted or copied, as it has been here for thousands of years. Our
country side is one of the most beautiful and breathtaking in the
world and the stone circles are a testiment to this, they represent
an ancient knowlegde that has long been lost but not forgotten.
They represent to many a time when man was not a destroyer of
nature but when we used our abilities to create something that
was a shrine to nature. Thats probably why the government are so
hell bent on destroying it. This throw away culture that gets
shoved down our throats from birth (cause quite frankly its
making alot of people very rich)is destroying basic human values
and making this country souless. This dispute is so symbolic of
the state of this country, I only hope that this time they won't get
away with it(unfortunately the present government seem to think
they can do what they like, after all we don't want the tories back!)
I agree not only should this road be stopped but that the area
should be restored to its original state and the stones should be
accessable only from footpaths (preferably long ones.)At the nine
ladies in Derbyshire, you walk across the moor along the cliff and
through the wooded area, where you'll find the stones, its so
exciting and enchanting when you first come across the
circle.After all they are a shrine to the countryside around them.
Unfortunately they too are at threat, as a large American company
want to quarry the surrounding area. Is nothing sacred? These
places must be saved or our children haven't got a chance in hell.
Good Luck with your campaigning!
Power to the People!
Thursday 08/07/2003 2:04:19pm
Name:
Michael Knapp
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Devizes/UK
Comments:
The new road plans are a compromise but a good one. The tunnel
itself will turn Stonehenge into a private viewing area totally
controlled by English Heritage and it will cost money just to see
the monument, whereas currently millions of people see it for free,
some of us every day. Nobody know what Stonehenge looked like
before roads, the view is not sacrosanct as the stones have been
re-constructed in the last 100 years to the current structure. The
tunnel supporters have brought about the new scheme by
insisting on hiding the stones from traffic (or vice versa) and now
don't like the consequences, but the wider road scheme is needed
to service the West country by supplying good traffic routes.
Thursday 08/07/2003 11:33:14am
Name:
oceanbreeze
E-Mail:
City/Country:
birmingham, uk
Comments:
Please leave stonehenge the way it is, stonehenge is part of our
history and should be left so that people in the future can enjoy it
too. the area around is so beautiful dont spoil that.
Monday 08/04/2003 9:23:29pm
Name:
Trish Hurley
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Horse Shoe, NC USA
Comments:
Please, please keep the site as it is.
Wednesday 07/30/2003 10:18:28am
Name:
Allan Howards
E-Mail:
City/Country:
hillingdon/middx/England
Comments:
At the risk of sounding "ANTI_EST" if the stone's were a xtian
place of worship we woudn't have a problem would we ....the only
time i have visited the stone's was when i was a boy cos my
parents took me and to this day i can remember the magik of the
place and the warmth of the stone's themselves i would love to
take my children but dont think they would get the same feel for
the place standing at a distance ...a bit like a xtian looking at
st.pauls cathederal but not allowed to see and be inside ...what
say you ...blessings to all.
Monday 07/28/2003 10:59:36am
Name:
Darien Shields
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Scotland
Comments:
I don't know if this has been said already, but don't you think
media coverage is what's required? I certainly didn't hear about
this until a Forward (Which I would have deleted, if I didn't have
some trust in the sender) appeared in my inbox. Aren't the press
just waiting to write another soppy story, criticising Tony Blair for
hacking away at our countries history, in favour of a more
american approach of "If it's in the way, knock it down"? Well,
that's my say. 'Course, I'd be a whole lot more active if they were
knocking the henge down.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks Darren. You wouldn't believe how hard it is to get the
media interested. Any help people can give us with that is much
appreciated.
Sunday 07/27/2003 6:35:40pm
Name:
dolphin
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Comments:
I had the pleasure of going within the Circle the noise of traffic
was certainly not spiritual to say the least. For that matter the army
test firing rockets just a short distance away didnt help. Object
fine but next time you visit the stones take note of the background
noise, then imagine no traffic.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks for writing. A few points:
1) Traffic noise will still be audible at the stones if this scheme
goes ahead.
2) There are other alternatives that would remove more traffic and
make the stones quieter.
3) Stonehenge is not just the stones; it's the entire World Heritage
Site extending over the much wider landscape.
4) The A344, which passes right next to the stones, could be
closed tomorrow with no negative impact on anyone.
Thursday 07/24/2003 1:56:01am
Name:
ebo
E-Mail:
City/Country:
yorkshireuk
Comments:
does this mean that my plans to open a superbbowl and burger
franchise beneath st. pauls cathederal are in with a fighting chance
then? And then on to build a twelve lane moterway flyover, over
the vatican't? Theyve been ramming thier small minded
monotheistic patriaacy down our throats for thousands of years,
relying on fear ignorance and apathy as thier tools, english
heratige is just another mask.love is all we have,keep it real folks.
see what this is all about, its not more roads the world needs it's
less cars. allisoneisloveisoneisloveisall
bestwshes.
Saturday 07/19/2003 10:12:20am
Name:
Steve Bewers
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Stockport Cheshire
Comments:
This act of criminal vandalism has not seen comparison since the
institutionalized rape of this land by the Victorians. How dare this
shabby, lie ridden "government" driven by spin and propaganda
so blatantly set out to destroy somewhere so ancient and sacred?
If this was a cathedral instead of a far more ancient sacred site
there would be no question, the road would not come within miles
of it!
I have read the site in which the planners put forward their
suggestions and costs. It comes with weazle words and doctored
photographs, no mention of the huge service roads needed during
construction, not a whisper about where the current traffic would
go, not a murmer of the damage done to the bedrock. Did you
know that Stonehenge stands above an aquifer? This is a large
area of pourous rock that holds vast quantities of water, if you
damage that it could become unstable and the water retention
properties of the aquifer and associated soil structure would
change radically. If you change the soil structure you damage it's
ability to support heavy structures, you figure it out!
Even if I wasn't a Druid I would be disgusted at the very idea of
this wanton vandalism, the road must be re-routed away for this
World Heritage Site and away from the associated burial mounds.
The government have a fantastic opportunity here to preserve the
indigenous spirituality of this country for all time, watch them
squander it!
Friday 07/18/2003 11:54:58pm
Name:
Keitha
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Toronto/Canada
Comments:
I am truly appalled at this proposal. Stonehenge is a sacred site
that must be protected.
Tuesday 07/15/2003 4:11:15pm
Name:
Damian McCarthy
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Mullingar, Ireland
Comments:
This is yet another example of crass stupidity in regard to heritage
for our children and our childrens children. Give the Highways
Agency an alternative route if you can.
Monday 07/14/2003 6:46:02pm
Name:
Harry Hall
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Salisbury, England
Comments:
It's funny how the people who don't live here claim our heritage as
their own. Likewise how many will protest that plans are an
'outrage' or whatever superlative comes to mind. How many will
suggest workable alternatives?
Stonehenge lies with a triangle formed by three busy main roads,
one of which is in desperate need of improvement and the
junctions with which are one of the most dangerous accident
blackspots in this county. Frankly, the idea of burying the A303 in
a tunnel and having the Stones back in a peaceful setting
relatively undisturbed by traffic, is marvellous.
As for the cuttings needing to be bulldozed in order to do this,
well of course they'll be an eyesore! Ten years on they'll be
grassed and the plantings will start to take shape and the scar will
have started to fade.
Imagine what it was like when the various parts of Stonehenge
itself were constructed, but this was over some 1500-1600 years.
We have to live with our heritage, we can't strangle ourselves with
it. Times do move on. This is another part of Stonehenge's 5,000
year history. Let's embrace it and make it as good as we can.
I have no connection with any organisation connected to the
Stones.
I live here!
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thank you, Harry, for another perspective :o)
I'm not sure what being "local" has to do with the issue. We are
talking about a UNESCO World Heritage Site, after all. I would
respectfully point out that quite a lot of "local" people do not
share your views. Many local people will be very adversely
affected by the road-most notably the residents of Countess
Road in Amesbury. The priority is surely to find the best all-round
solution, not the most expedient.
Saturday 07/12/2003 4:39:13pm
Name:
Kevin Clarke
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Comments:
Absolutely incredible that the government of the day would even
contemplate such actions. Guy Fawkes had the right idea.
Wednesday 07/09/2003 10:47:09am
Name:
Andr� Fritz
E-Mail:
City/Country:
amsterdam (nl)
Comments:
I would have thought that a country witch have the richness of
megalitic heritage, would tresure it. In the surrounding of stone
henge there are not only the graves of beakerpeople there are also
power-lines (as dutchies call them) in the soil. If soil is moved they
will also change, not to mention all the vibrations that road
constuction gives and the damage it will do, to the way that the
soil bears the heavy stones.
It will be a terable loss if some stones will slide and maybe even
trip.
In amsterdam there was a lot of damage to historical buildings
when our underground was built and the vibrations of the drilling
made the soil move.
Sorry if my english is not that good, after all i�m dutch.
Save Stonehenge!
Thanks Andre. A lot of people are worried about vibrations and
damage from construction. Your English is good!
Tuesday 07/08/2003 9:40:48pm
Name:
Aqua
E-Mail:
City/Country:
London UK
Comments:
I've always felt a great affinity with Stonehenge and am appalled
that ideas about violating this beautiful monument by making
roads should reach the design stage, and, heaven forbid, become
an actuality. Hopefully there will be enough of a public outcry to
prevent this outrage from going ahead.
Blessings
Aqua
Saturday 06/21/2003 10:09:34am
Name:
Vicky Jo
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Hollywood, CA
Comments:
My husband and I celebrated our wedding at Stonehenge
(www.domni.com/Wedpage), so that should give some indication
as to my sympathies...
It seems puzzling to me that-if I recall correctly from
Chippindale's book-there was a time when they couldn't GIVE
Stonehenge away, because nobody wanted it. Now it has become
this icon that many people identify with and everybody is
interested in. It represents something sacred. It stands for
something special and timeless. Funny how things change.
So why are people no longer allowed to casually enter the circle
whenever they like? Because tourists were carting off pieces, or
carving their initials in the rock! So we all pay the price for the
miscreants. It is a problem akin to our own Petrified Forest in
Arizona, where tourists illegally cart away TONS of irreplaceable
rockscape until it is scarcely a shadow of its former glistening self.
And this is thanks to the wonderful historic Route 66 that was
built in the U.S. to connect Chicago to the Pacific Ocean. Frankly, I
wish the National Parks Service would put controls in place along
the lines of what English Heritage has done in order to preserve
OUR National treasures before they vanish entirely.
I do recognize the problems of reconciling progress with
preservation. A solution is not found easily, and it's all to easy to
drum up outrage on either side.
It's a crazy world we live in. I hope I can be part of the solution
instead of part of the problem.
-Vicky Jo
Save Stonehenge writes:
Hi Vicky Jo... Thanks for your thoughtful post. You're right about
"drumming up outrage". It's a very difficult problem. On the one
hand, we want everyone to be very calm, rational, and considered.
Stonehenge is a temple of peace and rationality, after all. On the
other hand, we have witnessed highway projects being pursued
by the British government in recent years in exactly the same way
and we know that the idea of a "Stonehenge improvement"
pursued by people who come in on bulldozers is quite different
from other peoples'. It's also very difficult to get people excited
about this in Britain. This message board shows how much
Americans care about Stonehenge; the Brits are much more
reserved. So we walk a difficult line. I think the decider is this: by
calling for the scheme to be reconsidered, we are taking the more
considered view that gives time for pause and rethink.
Your comparison with monuments in the States is also most apt.
We really need people to be aware that there are many heritage
sites under constant threat all around the world. Hopefully our
campaign might have wider benefits. Well, we can hope! Thanks
again for writing.
SS.
Thursday 06/19/2003 2:29:06pm
Name:
tubby
E-Mail:
City/Country:
UK
Comments:
the only other people on the planet who want to destroy national
monuments was the Taliban. Well it looks like War and Profit
crazy herr Blair is another. Lets face it DONT vote for these
parasites, because this is how they react
Wednesday 06/18/2003 7:20:01pm
Name:
Steve
E-Mail:
City/Country:
London
Comments:
Here is one solution that should keep everyone happy.
Let's make Stonehenge truly exciting and enjoyable for everyone.
Let's face it, there is currently nothing there for children. When
you were a small child, how would you have felt if your parents
had taken you there to spend the day staring at some old stones?
So the solution is to replace the site with a theme park with roller
coasters, ice cream stalls, gift shops, burger bars, etc. The theme,
of course, would be Stonehenge as it once was, with close regard
paid to its history. There could be a replica of the stones, perhaps
as part of a water ride, where the cars/boats would weave around
the replica stones before finally climbing up one of them, then
plummeting down a fast water chute. What a thrill that would be.
There could be other attractions with names like "The Dreaded
Druid Ride" and "The Solstice Sausage Bar". Alton Towers eat
your heart out!
The stones (i.e. the real ones, not the proposed plastic replicas)
could be sold off to rich American businessmen who would no
doubt pay handsomely for their own personal piece ancient
European mystical history, complete with certificate of
authenticity. And the money raised from these sales would be
used to make "Stonehenge World" one of the best fun parks in
the land.
Write to you MP now to show your support for this exciting idea.
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thank you Steve. I think you'll find English Heritage tried to do
something a bit like this a few years ago. Oh yes!
Wednesday 06/18/2003 7:03:52am
Name:
Ron Russell
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Boulder/CO/USA
Comments:
Remove all the roads. Reroute all the through traffic miles away.
This can be done. The grounds restored as much as possible to
the natural setting of an old temple complex.
Stonehenge is one of the most important places on earth. It should
be honored by this effort. Visitors can have a tiered access via
electric busses.It would be open 18 hours a day and would
generate a lot of revenue. This is what should be done. The details
are up to the local and vested interests.
Ron Russell
www.cropcircles.org
Tuesday 06/17/2003 6:42:13pm
Name:justin
City/Country:staff
Comments:sooner or later all the people will
stand up and crush this moronic greedy society
that rules us and pretends to have our intrests
at heart..stonehenge might just start it.
Tuesday 06/17/2003 2:55:58pm
Name:MINERVA
City/Country:MELBOURNE/AUSTRALIA
Comments:IVE NEVER BEEN SO DISGUSTED IN ALL MY
LIFE!!!I MAY HAVE GROWN UP HERE IN AUSTRALIA,BUT
MY HERITAGE GOES BACK TO THE CELTS. STONEHENGE
IS A PART OF ME AND MANY OTHERS! TO DESTROY ANY
PART OF THE SACRED LAND IS THE LOWEST FORM OF
SACRILEGE TO THE WORLD THE LAND AND ITS KIN!!!
IT MAKES ME FEEL PHYSICALLY ILL! THE DAMAGE THAT
WOULD BE DONE IS OFF, COULD NEVER BE REPLACED
AND IS AN INSULT TO OUR HERITAGE!!!!!! (DONT LET
IT HAPPEN AT ALL COSTS)!!!!!!!
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks for writing with such passion and
feeling. I am convinced that the road builders
have absolutely no idea how blood-boilingly
angry people will get if they get away if this
plan. Please make your feelings known to them by
sending off an objection letter (see our take
action page).
And you're right. Stonehenge is a part of
England's past, but it belongs to the world and
to the future.
Best wishes to Australia!
Chris.
Tuesday 06/17/2003 8:45:13am
Name:Judith Boschert
City/Country:Westminster, Maryland USA
Comments:I had the once in a lifetime trip in
1996 to England, and my first trip after
arriving was to Stonehenge.
It saddens me to think that this beautiful site
will be marred in the name of progress.
Please, please take a lesson from the USA, we
are constantly tearing down historical sites and
paving them over, and our history is no where
near as ancient as England's. We are the asphalt
jungle here, but you still have the time to stop
it. With your excellent mass transit systems,
you are very lucky indeed to be able to save
your history.
Please resist the temptation to become an
asphalt jungle, and keep this precious ancient
site intact.
I support this cause totally, and will do what I
can to help save Stonehenge from the fate of
many other historical sites around the world.
Monday 06/16/2003 6:40:19pm
Name:michael j. chafin
City/Country:fountain inn,sc
Comments:stonehenge has been around for more
than 10,000 years it burns me up to see people
having no respect for the things of old.
Friday 06/13/2003 6:37:05pm
Name:Brooke Summersea
City/Country:Victoria/ Canada
Comments:I think it is sad that such a beautiful
place of worship(for us Wiccans out there ^_^)
would be surrounded by the sounds of cars. I do
not see how the Stonehenge would be intact. The
stones themselves would remain but the Magick
would flee from the place. I visited the
Stonehenge last year with my coven and was
amazed by how much power the henge projected. I
will be sincerly wounded if such a beautiful
thing loses its Magick.
Save Stonehenge writes:
The roadbuilders claim Stonehenge would be
quieter with their new tunnelled road in place.
We're not convinced. Traffic noise would still
be audible at the stones and, with much more
traffic using a four-lane road than a two-lane
road, it's impossible to say now what the
traffic noise would be like in future -- other
than that it will probably increase over the
years.
Wednesday 06/04/2003 11:18:02am
Name:Charles Lawie
City/Country:Grampian Region, Scotland
Comments:I visited Stonehenge 2 days before the
1999 solor eclipse. I was staying at Brighton at
the time, it took as long as it took to get
there, using the M27 and local roads. The best
part of the journey for me was driving along the
60 MPH single carridgeways.
To me having a dual-carrigeway that will allow
70 MPH speeds will create more noise and this
will be doubled with the extra volume of traffic
not to metion polution. This will be entirely
out of place in what should be, and kept as, a
quite country road. If it takes people longer to
get there, and longer to drive past it, prehaps
people will have more time to DRIVE SAFELY and
enjoy the view of the country side.
Save Stonehenge writes:
"...it took as long as it took" -- I love that.
There's wisdom for you :)
Monday 06/02/2003 10:21:29pm
Name:Drivers United
City/Country:West Sussex
Comments:I can't believe this site. Let me ask
you this? Surely more people would visit our
beautiful heritage sights if it didn't take so
long to drive to them!
Build the Tunnel - make it 6 lanes wide. STOP
LIVING IN THE PAST - THE PAST CAN BE PRESERVED
ALONG SIDE PROGRESS!
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks for giving us another perspective!
Friday 05/23/2003 2:39:22am
Name:De Marion
City/Country:Rockledge, FL USA
Comments:England is so beautiful with it's vast
open land. Please learn from us in the US who
couldn't wait to tear down monuments, forrests,
trees and whatever else that was sacred in the
name of progress. Keep up the fight!
Save Stonehenge: Just a reminder that the
Stonehenge monument itself will not be torn
down. We have to keep pointing this out or
people tell us off for "putting out
misinformation".
Thursday 05/22/2003 10:47:37am
Name:Danika Gigg
City/Country:essex
Comments:I think this new road is VERY VERY
wrong!!! people just do not care about our
history enough!!!stonehenge is a fine piece of
art and should not be disturbed!KEEP STONEHENGE
SAFE!!!!!
Wednesday 05/21/2003 11:31:16pm
Name:Natalie Wright
City/Country:Essex
Comments:I visited stonehenge with my family in
may we had a wonderful time.the A303 is close by
so it was easy to get to but it was far enough
away for us to still have peace & space.Making
the road bigger would change this & maybe people
would enjoy the pleasure of being in such a
wonderful place less.
Wednesday 05/21/2003 2:00:43am
Name:whitedog
E-Mail:
City/Country:southern california, usa
Comments:~good work here!
Thursday 05/15/2003 3:37:21pm
Name:Dan
E-Mail:
City/Country:Canada
Comments:Is the grass not made of blades? Can
rain not drown? Nature shall have revenge. Man
has defiled enough land already, and now they
destroy a holy land? I don't see them building
roads through any of their churches, but yet
they destroy an anceint holy place. I thought
George Bush was an a*****e, I'm even more
appaled at this. Tis a sad day, when nature is
considered just an obstacle to overcome...
Wednesday 05/07/2003 7:35:40pm
Name:J.Kirkpatrick
City/Country:
Comments:Readers may be interested to know that
The Summer School At Westonbirt is running a
course on the latest theories about Stonehenge.
The course 'The Age of Stonehenge'is run by
J.S.McCracken BA FSA MIFD a professional
archaeologist and teacher.
Set near Tetbury in Gloucestershire, Westonbirt
is idealy placed to study Stonehenge and related
sites.
For further information see
Save Stonehenge writes:
Generally, we don't discuss theories of
Stonehenge on this message board because -- even
though that is extremely interesting to many of
us -- it takes us too far from the current topic
(the future plans for the sit) and we're trying
to keep very focused on that. However, the
course looks very interesting and I hope you get
lots of people signing up for it :o)
Tuesday 05/06/2003 1:13:35pm
Name:Kelli Shaw
City/Country:England
Comments:Typical b***** goverment money grabers.
They'll have to get past me first !
Saturday 04/19/2003 5:54:48pm
Name:Alfi Forsch
City/Country:Calgary, Canada
Comments:I have not been to Stonehenge, but
somehow my images of my first visit have never
included a motorway. I can't believe that a mode
of transportation that has only been around for
one hundred years is being honoured before a
place that has existed for thousands of years!
Friday 04/18/2003 1:28:40am
Name:Allegra Casella
City/Country:Australia,Q.L.D,Ingham
Comments:I would love to donate some money but
I'm only 12. I have never seen stonehenge but I
believe that the land scape around it should be
preserved so that the generations to come can
witness the mystery of the stonehenge.
Tuesday 04/15/2003 4:46:32pm
Name:Billy Parker
City/Country:Brighton,UK
Comments:Yesterday I visited stonehenge for the
first time.It was the singularily most amazing
thing I've seen in my life,from the moment I saw
it I could tell there was something very
supernatural about it.Now I hear that England's
most peaceful and spiritual site will be filled
with the noises of cars rushing in through the
tunnel and the honking of horns from not so far
away,savestonehenge.org.uk definately has my
donation.
Saturday 04/05/2003 12:45:04am
Name:Elizabeth
City/Country:essex
Comments:I think that the a303 is already a
congested road and there are alot of accidents
on that road every year. Stonehenge is a popular
place to visit and therefore we need another
road or we the road already there will become to
conjested and there will be more accidents. We
need to think ahead one ugly road, or alot of
conjestions, hold ups, or fatal accidents!!
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thanks for writing! You make a very good point,
but building a new road is not necessarily the
best way to reduce accidents. Some new roads
built to reduce traffic and accidents simply
scale up the problem or move it elsewhere.
Twyford Down, effectively the Winchester bypass,
soon acquired one of the worst accident records
in Britain when it opened in 1994.
So yes, we need to think ahead: the situation we
have it with so many accidents and so much
congestion... or a situation tomorrow with
bigger roads, accidents shifted elsewhere, and
congestion scaled up. The way to solve accidents
is to get more people driving more safely; the
way to solve congestion is to reduce dependence
on cars by promoting better public transport.
One question we should be asking: why, among all
the options proposed for Stonehenge over the
years, have there been none looking at better
public transport?
Name:Ian Johns
City/Country:Canada (formerly from Wilton,
Wiltshire)
Comments:It would appear to me that if rail
tunnels can be bored through the chalk beneath
the Channel it would not be difficult to bore
similar tunnels through the chalk downs adjacent
to Stonehenge. Make certain that neither the
A303 nor the visitors centre can be seen from
Stonehenge or from the barrows on the cursus or
Normanton down.
Sunday 03/16/2003 0:27:29am
Name:alex
E-Mail:
City/Country:middx. england
Comments:I can't believe what I'm reading. I
pity the person came up with this idea. I
remember when Stonehenge was just in a field for
anyone to wander, then they fence it off & put a
car park there now this!!!!!! I'm lost for words
my head just screaming NO! NO! NO!!!!
Save Stonehenge:
Well it's YES, YES, YES unless we stop it. It's
full steam ahead with the plan at the moment and
it will take a huge international campaign to
defeat it.
Tuesday 03/11/2003 1:02:49pm
Name:sherry holland
City/Country:sth australia
Comments:i am astounded that a so called
advanced and educated culture.aka the
politicians..i am being gracious.i am assuming
any of them have a heart.........the importance
of stonehenge and its surrounding area...which
includes remnants of the greater circle .i
believe anyway.....is
unforgivable....insane..money
hungering.......when does our history cease to
be.do we define a time.....hah......fools.what
are we doing to our souls.......
Wednesday 03/05/2003 8:36:07pm
Name: KaliMab
City/Country: Scunthorpe
Comments: I am utterly appalled and incensed by the proposed roadworks
through the Heritage surrounding Stonehenge!!! This
government should begin to make up its mind! First it tries
to encourage "motorists" to get out of their cars and use
public transport...then it has the audacity to build bigger
and more intrusive road systems!!! For heaven's sake, Tony,
get your act together; stop war-mongering abroad and start
creating VIABLE solutions for the problems at home! Messing
about with things too ancient to be properly understood
would be catastrophic. Aside from which we don't want
another "London Eye" simply because government officials are
too eager to thrash about like bulls in a china shop! Leave
Stonehenge alone and stop trying to reduce the sacred relics
of our religion to crass commercialisation!
Save Stonehenge:
Thanks for writing! We've devoted relatively little space to
the commercialization of Stonehenge. English Heritage's
intention is or was to double the number of visitors through
its "Stonehenge Master Plan". The Christopher Chippindale
paper "The One Million and the One Hundred Thousand" sets
out some of the issues on visitor numbers, but I've not seen
anyone actually tackle commercialization -- "the clamour of
incessant novelty" (as John Gray said) -- per se. The
technopagans were proposing to doing something on it I
think.
The Chippindale article is here if you want to take a look:
http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ million.html
As for Tony, if he only had a fraction of the humility,
serenity, and grace of Stonehenge....
Monday 03/03/2003 10:01:22pm
Name: angie
City/Country: luton england
Comments: If a ming vase was recovered, the like of which had never
been found before, there would be no question for its
conservation and as stonehenge and its landscape are a
unique part of our heritage it should go without saying that
any work be that destructive archaeoloy such as excavation
or road improvment should not be carried out.
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Friday 02/21/2003 1:30:03pm
Name: Natasha Chadwick 'Tash'
City/Country: Seaford
Comments: Save the site around Stonehenge
Tear the roadway plans to shreds
Ongoing work to save our past
Never stops, never ends
England's finest, Britains pride
Halt the diggers, bulldozers, noise
Enjoy all the land you can survey
Neolithic people a past in present too
Grass barrows mark out where they lay
Energies of the Ancients at their height today
Save Stonehenge writes:
Thank you so much for the poem Natasha!
Tuesday 02/11/2003 2:08:25pm
Name: mike miers
City/Country: dorset
Comments: I live very near stone henge and it is a great monument of
our society it is being ruined
Thursday 02/06/2003 4:41:04pm
Name: A Klein
City/Country: Ter Apel/The Netherlands
Comments: Years ago i've been at Stonehenge.
This Herritage looked one with the landscape around.
My opinion is: hands off from this magnificent area.
Tuesday 01/28/2003 8:48:57pm
Name: barbara heartfield
City/Country: england
Comments: i am sick of english heritage and national trust as a
whole,they are only interested in earning as much money as
possible in as short a time as possible,they have no idea
about the earth energies in the surrounding land,and no idea
of what they may unleash if they start digging around,i have
seen so many changes in the stones in the last ten or so
years,in fact the only reason the government allowed us back
on the henge at the solstice was because the stones were
dying and needed to feel the energies again,if the stones
crumble and die they will lose money,the stones should be
free for anyone to visit at anytime,to show there respects
to a time gone by that may at some time return,in these days
of uncertainty who knows what will happen in the future,we
must learn to respect what was left for us, whether we
understand it or not.
Thursday 01/23/2003 8:39:40am
Name: Joseph Edward Palumbo
City/Country: antioch/america
Comments: It a travesty to me to think that in a time when all is
being destroyed to help us live more comfortably . That now
a historic lanscape with lines of memory that run back to
the beginning of civilized times is going to be disrupted .
What would be next the destruction of the henge itself .
september eleventh two thousand two a terrorist act was
comitted against my country and a wonderful piece of
architecture . To me this is a act that has the same face
value as 9-11 .My people , our people should not lose this
land it is our s to keep it is all that we have left since
the chrisian onslaught againsst our religion it is ours the
bards ,ovates and druid preists . What does Granfather
Michael have to say about this ? What would Phillip Carr
Gomm have to say about it ? What would Merlyn have done ? We
all must have faith brothers and sisters nature will not let
them take steps this far.
Monday 01/20/2003 1:39:56am
Name: Angry Scot
City/Country: Glasgow
Comments: As an Archaeologist, I am appalled at the stance of our
government, English Heritage and the National Trust over
Stonehenge. They are all wallowing in a scummy world, ruled
by numbers and meaningless bits of paper.
Leave the stones alone, build your stinkin road somewhere
else!
Save Stonehenge replies:
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The National Trust has now changed its position and is
fighting for a better scheme. English Heritage doesn't seem
too bothered. Originally, they told opponents that we had to
"compromise" for the greater good and accept the
cut-and-cover tunnel. Now they admit that that would have
been a complete disaster! But their record of standing up
for the stones at Stonehenge is not good! As for the British
government's Department for Transport, where do I start??!!
They have no interest in saving Stonehenge whatsover. By the
time they finish this scheme, it'll be a traffic island!
Sunday 01/19/2003 10:00:15pm
Name: C Strong
City/Country: Michigan
Comments: First of all, many years ago in school I did a report on
Stonehenge, and one of the sources I used stated that the
rate of destruction has increased considerably with the
introduction of roads and motor vehicles near the henge
because of the vibrations they put through the earth.
Although I don't remember the name of the source, it was an
older book published sometime in the late 1960s or early
70s, and it further stated that in order to preserve the
monument, steps had to be taken to cut down on the amount of
traffic on Salisbury Plain. It seems to me that the proposed
road is intended to do just the opposite and I shudder to
think what kind of vibration the construction work of a
tunnel would cause in the earth. Just because something
isn't touching the monument doesn't mean it can't cause
damage.
Second of all, just because one group of people is either
immune to or doesn't understand the spirituality Stonehenge
holds for so many, doesn't mean they have the right to
dismiss or reject the feelings and beliefs of those who do
believe in the power of this monument.
Finally, no amount of technology and progess in the world
can replace the knowledge we can gain from investigating
sites like this, and how are we ever going to begin to
understand the people who built Stonehenge and the various
uses it may have had if valuable evidence is destroyed?
Monuments can mean a lot of different things to different
people. No matter how you look at it or what your beliefs,
Stonehenge is an awe inspiring monument worth preserving at
all costs.
Friday 01/17/2003 3:44:13pm
Name: bob fisher
E-Mail:
City/Country:
Comments: i agree with u.
Wednesday 01/15/2003 6:03:24pm
Name: ashley
City/Country: greeley, colorado
Comments: I think this is so unjust. fight the construcion! PIckETT!
protest!
Tuesday 01/14/2003 6:36:37am
Name: M. Mudd
City/Country: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Comments: I wish to add my concerns about the issue of intrusive road
building at such a remarkable site as Stonehenge, which I do
hope to see for myself someday soon.
It seems the struggles to preserve sites of unique
sacredness deserving of respect are universal. Here in
Albuquerque NM we are also struggling against a planned road
that will cut right through the Petroglyph National
Monument, an area of immense sacredness to this area's
Native American peoples. Some petroglyphs will be destroyed,
others they propose to move, which is considered about as
acceptable by those who revere this area of spiritual and
ancestral significance as relocating Stonehenge would be to
most there I'm sure!!
I wish you success in your struggle over there!!
Monday 01/06/2003 7:13:56pm
Name: Brian
City/Country: Norridgewock, Maine
Comments: If the existing highway is so inefficient the way it is, why
not repair and maintain IT, as opposed to Gutting out such a
monumental religious site?
Some may say "yeah, okay... another angry pagan..."; but I
say this in response: I only began studying the pagan ways
when I was in high school, before then and currently I am a
confirmed catholic. Thus, this also comes from a christian
stand-point; I ask: Would you widen a highway to run through
the Vatican? Of course not! Why would it be presumed to be
okay to run a highway through any other religious home site?
Show some sign of serious rational! It's rediculous to even
waste time planning to destroy this precious holy ground, as
it will only lead to unnecessary conflict. Do whats right, [Image]
preserve stonehenge and just reroute the plans to go around
stonehenge instead of through it.
Sincerely,
Brian Pomelow
Wednesday 01/01/2003 2:35:20am
Name: Josh
City/Country: Louisiana/USA
Comments: hello. im writing this for suport to save Stonehenge. I work
in the construction field. I know the damage that can be
done from any work of this nature. I feel that if this kind
of work is done in the area it will seriously affect the
land and Stonehenge it self. Not directly as they are not
going to dig it up, but it will still cause some danger to
the sight it self. Please pay attention to this warning from
someone who has worked in this field of job. Dont do it.
Save this peice of human history please.
Tuesday 10/11/2005 6:50:20pm
Name: Jo
City/Country: cumbria
Comments: i think its totaly bad what ther gonna do we should all fight for this beautiful land site