Save Stonehenge! Message Board July 2001-Dec 2002

Saturday 12/28/2002 2:50:39am Name: Lisa O'Dell City/Country: West Valley City, Utah

Comments: In the past times the land was vast. So vast you had to travel for days just to find a neighbor. Due to the increase of people on this earth the need has become great for better ways to travel. If you think about it though, the simple thing is this. If you make room for roads and people will we eventually have no grass, plants, or rocks. The only rocks we will see will be asphalt & concrete. In my dreams Stonehedge calls to me, it was once a place of great spirituality and power. How could that part of it be saved if vehicles are zooming by. This is a place of the druid religion. Desecrating this place in any way would be like desecrating the place where Jesus was born, and resurrected. Could you really ask them to not be upset and request that a more environment friendly solution be found? We are of this earth and will return to this earth. What happens when we finally ruin it?
Thank you,

Thursday 12/26/2002 6:59:34pm Name: adrian kremler City/Country: Quebec city, Canada

Comments: Comments:
If a road must be built, please be sure to maintain the tranquility and the intrinsic beauty of this site... There is currently too much destruction of old monumental sites with simultaneous construction of new technology...

Monday 12/23/2002 3:10:35pm Name: Newt City/Country: Somerset

Comments: I see the new road from 2 aspects. 1, the need for the widening/dual carridgeway. 2, the impact on a sacred site and surrounding areas.
I am 100% against the road building scheme. What i have noticed is peoples apathy toward road-building schemes, until it appears on their doorstep.
I could argue against the first point all day, but a summary is: the route will permanantly trash sacred sites (long barrow), will churn up large amounts of land (ley lines will be severed) and all because people use their cars unnesseserely. More roads is not the solution. 2:although stonehenge was rebuilt in the 50's, it is still a sacred site (National Trust can **** off - they pillage for profit). energy channels will be severed, and this whole scheme will not make the area any more tranquil!

Monday 12/23/2002 1:08:16pm [Image] Name: RAVEN City/Country: hampshire england

Comments: why?? i am ashamed to even be part of this so- called human race!!!

Saturday 12/14/2002 0:24:42am Name: Tom Wise City/Country: Oxford

Comments: I am not often concerned about road development but I am about this. The thought of major road lighting and a changed landscape only adds to the offence I take at the expensive and second rate service of English Heritage (too expensive with limited access over limited times).
If it can't be done well then leave it alone.

Wednesday 12/11/2002 9:22:19pm Name: Chris E-Mail: City/Country: Hertfordshire, UK

Comments: I really don't see the problem with either the cut-and cover or bored tunnel options. The road has to be built, surely anyone can see that - both from the viewpoint of the motorist trying to get to their destination, and from those who wish to preserve the tranquility of the stones.
At the moment the single-carriageway bottleneck comes within yards of the monument. With the new road routed slightly further away, and covered to avoid intrusion on the landscape surely everyone wins?

Wednesday 12/11/2002 3:30:05pm Name: DUNCAN E-Mail: City/Country: WEST MIDS

Comments: WHY ARE YOU ALL GETTING SO UPSET, THEY ARE NOT KNOCKING IT DOWN! CONCETRATE ON SAVING HUMAN LIFE, THEY WILL STILL BE THERE IN YEARS TO COME!!!!!!!!

Wednesday 12/11/2002 3:06:47pm Name: Eric E-Mail: City/Country: Birmingham, England

Comments: I cant believe a few rocks can cause so much fuss. Who cares how old or significant they are? we shouldn't let a few sentimental do-gooders stand in the way of progress.

Wednesday 12/11/2002 11:23:51am Name: Jackie City/Country: Lancashire

Comments: I fully understand that the physical properties of Stonehenge will not be affected by the construction of the tunnel. However, I am concerned that the lines of power/ley lines and 'hidden' energies surrounding the site will be completely ruined by this rape of Salisbury Plain. Of course the roads do this too, but digging deeply into the Earth .... they have no idea what they will do. The magick of Stonehenge could be lost forever. I am deeply disturbed about this. You only have to visit Avebury to get a sense of the power that was once there, weakened when they tore down the stones to build houses. And we live in more enlightened times? Hmm.
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Wednesday 12/11/2002 10:28:09am Name: Mike Mills City/Country: London

Comments: We bring many hundreds of adult overseas students to Stonehenge to teach them about it to enable them to appreciate it.
Over the years I have watched it become more and more tacky, and it saddens me that such an important monument should be sidelined instead of being preserved as it should be in a national park. The countryside round the monument is beautiful, and instead of doing everything they can to preserve it, this government seem intent on destroying it - as they are doing with much of our environment, just to build roads and yet more roads. Will they never understand that creating more roads simply leads to more traffic needing yet more roads?
We are adding links to our site to help fight this Destruction

Friday 12/06/2002 3:57:31am Name: Sara Bernard City/Country: The Wilds of Maine, USA

Comments: I have read through alot of the comments in this guestbook, and I agree wholeheartedly with them... This is an outrage! how anyone could even consider adding onto that road is beyond me....to destroy the energies, the sacred lands near a sacred site is a tragedy, a travesty, horrible, and just plain wrong!! I urge anyone with any interest in this beautiful, ancient site to please write to all of the ninnies in favor of this road project, and voice your protest!! no matter how many letters, phone calls, emails it takes to get the powers that be to pay attention!! Caring people of mother earth, let us unite to save Stonehenge...maybe if enough of us stand up and speak out, I pray we can make the moneygrubbers see the error of their ways...
[Also, I would like to thank the people running this website, if it weren't for your sense of compassion and caring, and your outrage at this road travesty, I never would have known about it....thank you for enlightening me..]
pen in hand, brightest blessings to you all and may Gaia watch over us and help us in this most noble of causes [Image] ~Sara

Thursday 12/05/2002 7:46:45pm Name: Richard Glynn City/Country: texas

Comments: It nevers ceases to amaze me the level of stupidity our so called leaders posess, no matter which country you live in.Sadly these people were chosen by votes!How they could consider trashing a monument like that is beyond me. If they do it they should all be ashamed of themselves Richard

Thursday 12/05/2002 12:19:00am Name: G. Arthur Woods City/Country: USA

Comments: STONE HENGE is in trouble? I did not know. Thanks for the board This place needs some international attention. How can we do that? We need a BIG plan
G. Arthur Woods WWW.ReadersNet.net

Wednesday 12/04/2002 5:01:47am Name: Norman Sanderson Jr City/Country: British Columbia Canada

Comments: This is disgusting!! Our world heritage sites must be preserved! Especialy the power sites. The Peruvian gov't is allowing a resort hotel to be built at Macchu Picchu. Now this. Next there will be gondola rides to the top of the Great Pyramid. I will not go back to Peru. If Stonehenge is desecrated I will not go to England.

Tuesday 12/03/2002 8:54:12pm Name: Save Stonehenge City/Country: England

Comments: A quick note: I've been inserting "deletethis" into email addresses on recent posts to our board (for example, info(at)savestonehenge.org.uk) to reduce the chances of you getting spam emails when you sign the board. You might like to do the same if you post (or camouflage your email in some other obvious way... or just leave the email slot blank).
Keep posting! Thanks!

Monday 12/02/2002 7:13:38pm Name: John Henry City/Country: London/UK

Comments: There should be no roads going near to stonehenge, it's one of the great wonders of the world that we still donb't know for a fact what it was exactly for. Give it a chance don't build near it!

Monday 12/02/2002 4:54:00am Name: Rev, Mary Sims City/Country: US

Comments: The very thought of anything happening to Stone Henge and the lovely surrounding countryside is very disturbing. Though I have only seen Stone Henge in pictures and heard of it's beauty from my friend there in the UK, it is my fondest wish to visit the land of my ansestors. Perhaps one day if the Creator deems me worthy I will be able to see it with my [Image] own eyes.

Sunday 12/01/2002 8:44:17pm Name: Lynda City/Country: Birmingham

Comments: the world is in chaos, and this proves it too well, with no love for the goddess, they make a living hell, the more that oppose this, the more people care, its our purpose this lifetime to make people aware.

Saturday 11/30/2002 2:53:39pm Name: Judy Hall City/Country: Mosinee, U.S.A.

Comments: My heart breaks with every word that I have read about this road, or any roads, going through holy sites. I have read about many other holy sites that were destroyed because of the need of more (at)#%$! roads or parking lots for supermarkets. I figure this distuction would be like defacing Mount Rushmore or plowing under Yellowstone National Park. If there is going to be this so called road, make it away from Stonehenge. Make the site as it was along time ago, so everyone can enjoy going to the center stones and feeling their energies. If gaffiti is an issue, then they should compare notes with other park managers here in the States.
Thank you, Judy Hall

Friday 11/29/2002 11:28:07am Name: Lisa City/Country: Dublin

Comments: I visited Stonehenge a few years ago and felt that the road was already too close and that the spirit of the place was slowly being destroyed. This proposed road will rapidly increase the pace of destruction and crush the spirit of this astounding monument. Whether Pagan, Christian or whatever we should not allow this destruction to continue. Paganism is one of the fastest growing spiritual movements in the world. It's time we took a stand. Lisa

Wednesday 11/27/2002 9:32:01pm Name: miya City/Country: Watford/England

Comments: Can anybody tell me howcome I only found out about this by accident and why it isn't on the news or something? Its terrible what they're doing and I can't belive English Heritage were going to help pay for it!
Save Stonehenge replies:
Hi Miya... It's in the news -- but not very often. The journalists (and the big environmental groups) will get very very interested when it's too late to do anything about the road, just like on many occasions in the past. That's why the rest of us have to keep shouting!!

Friday 11/22/2002 8:42:39pm Name: Crystal Andrews City/Country: England, Peterborough

Comments: why, i've never been to stonehenge but have been to some cirlces of standing stones in the moors, it gives you an [Image] undescriable feeling of wonder being close to such magnificant structures, i felt so much at peace when i was looking over bodmin moor standin where i imagined my pagan priests and priesstess stood so many years before, why, how, could people even contemplate doing such a horrible thing?

Thursday 11/14/2002 7:02:57pm Name: Martyn Edwards City/Country: Canterbury, England

Comments: The only change in transport policy on the World Heritage Site should be the removal of all roads within several miles, whatever the cost, as we are duty bound to respect and maintain a monument of such worth. The absolute disregard for our Pagan ancestory, which is still widely practiced today, is disgusting. Protestors will ensure it never comes to pass, but why even suggest it in the first place.

Saturday 11/09/2002 10:20:21pm Name: Teece Hamilton City/Country: West Midlands, England

Comments: I can't believe that yet again the Government of this country is taking over and raping our history and heritage. When I visited Stonehenge 2 years ago I was saddened to see the extent of the damage done to the immediate vicinity of the circle, all in the name of tourism. At least then there was a plan to return the area to a natural state, take out that road and create a National Park. Or so we were led to believe. I suppose we should expect nothing better from politicians but to know that British Heritage are in on this, rather than heading up the fight against it, is intolerable. I will be writing to anyone concerned and will encourage others to do likewise.

Friday 11/01/2002 11:52:43pm Name: Tavia City/Country: Pa, USA

Comments: No you canNOT change stonehenge. It is a historic monument. And you should not allow graffity. Get it watched. This is historic religious monuments too. How would you like it if someone would built a road through the Vatican or the Wailing Wall? Gets you thinking. I hope this helps prove why you shouldn't destroy this monument.

Tuesday 10/15/2002 9:03:44pm Name: Bree Schultz City/Country: USA

Comments: The following is a copy of the letter I sent to the dolts in charge. I'm seeing that my thoughts are no different than others visiting the board here. Keep fighting.
I am writing to object to the destruction that your department and your government are proposing for the Stonehenge site.
I implore you - please invest the money you have earmarked for this project to re-route new roads outside the heritage site, rather than through it. I visited Stonehenge in 1988... I was 14. Respectfully, and without sarcasm, it changed my life. I want my children to have the ability to experience it the same way I did. Quiet, powerful. Not concentrating on the experience over the din of the traffic, and the exhaust, and the inevitable fueling stations that will result from this horrendous paving project.
You are not improving transportation in the area. You are facilitating the destruction of one of the entire planet's most important structures. The impact of this project is so far-reaching, that you and your colleagues cannot possibly comprehend. If the Manhattan Project had been understood as the huge danger that it was, what would the planet be like at this moment?
Please, please. Reconsider. Cease.
Bree D. Schultz
Save Stonehenge writes: Thanks Bree! (We deleted your address from here to protect your privacy).

Wednesday 10/09/2002 6:08:14am Name: Patrick City/Country: United States

Comments: I couldn't believe this when I read it!!! How can anyone even imagine thinking about putting a road near Stonehenge?? The vibration and pollution would be devastating!!! Even more than it is now.. The stones have been standing for millions upon millions of [Image] years. This is just one more example of government agencies thinking with their heads in their arses!!! The pursuit of the almighty pound/dollar/euro/yen/etc... I and many of my friends from all over the globe have a personal interest in the site ourselves.. We look to Stonehenge as our spiritual home... What would the government say if someone wanted to put Buckingham Palace, The Tower of London, or Big Ben in jeapordy??? I am sure they would reconsider their choices then!!! *Drops 2 quid in the hat and bows* God Save The Queen!!!!

Tuesday 10/08/2002 12:34:56am Name: Tani Harding City/Country: Dublin/Ireland

Comments: This is unbelievable - I thought at first it could only be a very bad joke. As an archaeologist I'm especially appalled by the role of English Heritage in the whole scheme. What would they feel if someone goes on someday and plan to build a road through Canterbury Cathedral or Westminster Abbey ??

Sunday 10/06/2002 5:13:42pm Name: Denis Germain City/Country: Paris, France

Comments: Governancy stupidity at its worse. To move the actual road away form the site they would have had support. This movement here is just the same as the highway building about 10 years ago through unraveled Bronze sites in UK. This is barbarian policy.
In Switzerland a prehistoric site discovered this year during a highway building in the Jura mountains will be in fact protected by the highway. They are to pay extra dozen millions to protect from elements the largest site of dinosaurs footprint in Europe. the highway can't go elsewhere, so they use the highway as a mean to protect the site.
And what do we see here, an administrative decision to continue the spoil of a world heritage. We really need highways through Westminster Abbey, Borobudur, Notre Dame of Paris, Angkor,Karnak and other spiritual places in the world. It'd be really a thing of "progress". The Black Hills (Mount so called "Rushmore") have already been destroyed. Is it really a good for humanity?
the 2 largest stone alignments in the world in Carnac and nearby have already roads running through. The Menec alignments (the largest, more than a km) is severed in 2, and closed into fences for protection, as the Lockmariaker site.
This things are here for 4000 years. What are we doing NOW?

Saturday 10/05/2002 3:05:40pm Name: Dave Stevens City/Country: uk

Comments: Why are they wasting millions on a tunnel? Why cant they reroute the (at)#%$! road away from the stones? Direct action is required on this. Is it true they are building a replica of the stones....doh!!
Save Stonehenge writes:
A plan to do just this, the so-called ACT Parker Plan, has not even been considered and looks like it won't get any kind of a fair hearing...
Not everyone supports this plan, but quite a lot of people do. You can read more here: http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ actparker.html
Save Stonehenge writes: I think there was a proposal to build a replica of the stones in the visitors' centre... but that was some time ago... not sure if it's still true or not. Wouldn't surprise me.
As for direct action: I don't think people like the National Trust have any comprehension just how many people are getting very angry about this and just how big an embarrassment direct action would be for them.

Wednesday 10/02/2002 1:40:16pm Name: purple rhythmic eagle City/Country: Salisbury, England

Comments: I think the Goverment are going to end up with more than they bargained for . I for one know plenty of people who would be prepared to put up a very strong protest campaign in objection to this. It's bad enough that they even built the A303 near this Sacred site let alone that now they want to double the size of it. I'm really surprised. The worst thing is that the Government nearly always wins when it comes to these battles. But this is a battle we must fight to the end. Perhaps if enough people get involved we may stand a chance of winning....there is always hope x
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Wednesday 10/02/2002 10:31:08am Name: Melanie Tyler City/Country: Warwickshire, England

Comments: This is sacrilege! It is bad enough to have a road right next to Stonehenge, but tunnelling anywhere near it will obviously disturb the flow of earth energies going to and from the stones. Are these people totally irresponsible and incompetent? Would they ever consider tunnelling under St. Pauls Cathedral? I think not, yet Stonehenge is a far more sacred place to many people the world over. Even if they do not believe in the earth's natural energies, there are people who are much respected for their work in researching these energies - please will THESE people speak up, they may be more likely to have their voices heard than the rest of Joe Public.

Monday 09/30/2002 1:32:38pm Name: adge City/Country: eire

Comments: yet again we have to fight.i was in the battle of the beanfield in 85.do these idiots never learn? once more into the breach , dear friends ,once more... blessed be...adge...

Monday 09/30/2002 11:57:54am Name: ian grace City/Country: Surrey

Comments: Hey, I thought that the tunnel was away from the Stones to the south of the existing A303 thus having a lesser impact.
With the tunnel there, you wont be able to see the stones unless you go to the visitor centre. This should be a good thing or am i confused.

Monday 09/30/2002 10:19:17am Name: Rosie City/Country: Australia

Comments: why even ask this question?? even though you/they are not going to destroy it such building around or under/over even would be disrespectful to the sacredness of the SH... shesh why ask?

Monday 09/30/2002 2:51:24am Name: James City/Country: Tasmania , Australia

Comments: What the hell is wrong with the supposed powerbrokers of this world. We here have forestry going into world heritage forests, and now I see they want to 'dig under stonehenge?'. When are they going to grow up and stop acting like spoilt little children, and act like the mature adults they are supposed to be?.

Sunday 09/29/2002 9:14:44pm Name: Mary Medlicott City/Country: London UK

Comments: Everyone knows that more roads create more traffic. What made the government think that it would be a good idea to turn a major world heritage site into the new M5? This will cause pollution in a site of historical importance. It is utterly selfish to the future generations who would want to [Image] see Stonehenge preserved as it has been for thousands of years.Instead of wasting its money building more roads, the government should be investing in better public transport links and preserving Stonehenge as a site of world importance for the future.

Sunday 09/29/2002 11:14:16am Name: iside City/Country: Rochester

Comments: I am disgusted by the mercenary plotting ofthose responsible for this plan; most of all English Heritage and the NT for getting involved at all. Who knows what damage the vibrations from traffic will do to the stones? What if we are left with a heap of rubble in a 100 years time? Will they still think it is a good idea then? Not to mention the damage to the wildlife.

Saturday 09/28/2002 0:39:57am Name: nick wilden City/Country: sussex

Comments: I don't get it!! i'd have thought that a 'world heritage site' was something to be proud of and at the very least a magnet for the yankee doller. it appears that whoever can 'bypass' these small logistical matters by digging under the thing doesnt like to leave things alone. i think that an urge to make your mark shows gross immaturity.

Friday 09/27/2002 4:40:23am Name: Kathleen E-Mail: City/Country: USA

Comments: Keep the world alive. stand up against more disrespect..

Thursday 09/26/2002 6:37:42pm Name: Heather City/Country: British Columbia, Canada

Comments: I'm actually only doing a school project on Stonehenge, but when I found this site I was appalled! I plan to put a lot of the information about this "tunnel" into my project. I want to thank the creators of the site, for choosing to take action, because your right, Stonehenge is one of the biggest mysteries in the world and shouldn't be devalued because of what the government wants. I think they should start listening to what the people want, instead of making decisions based on what they want. Although I'm only 14, so probably cant do much to help, thank you for clueing me in.

Thursday 09/26/2002 3:57:07am Name: Douglas S. Miller City/Country: Huntington Beach, CA USA

Comments: Have they totally lost their minds? So if the British government needs to "get there from here" and Buckingham Palace is in the way will they dig under it? To me, this is on the same par as the destuction of the stone images in Afghanistan. This is a significant, historical site that truly "belongs" to the world and just so happens to be located in Great Britain. The thought that tunneling under [Image] or any other method to get their highway built will not disturb the site is naive. The world should be shocked and Great Britain should be embarssed. What's next, fill in the Grand Canyon for parking?

Thursday 09/26/2002 2:27:38am Name: Bill Derivan, PsyD City/Country: Orange Co. NY/ USA

Comments: The idea of moving any aspect of Stonehenge or the surrounding environment is comparable to developing a Disney Land in Vatican City. The roots and origins of many Pagan religions are traced through Stonehenge. These religions, although nonchristian, must be equally protected & respected. Having spent the better part of my life looking to Stonehenge as a source of spiritual enlightment I am outraged that the British Government would even entertain such a plan. All good things, Bill Derivan

Thursday 09/26/2002 2:18:08am Name: amitesh prabhu City/Country: mumbai/india

Comments: i appeal to those concerned do not destroy this ancient monument which is a world heritage site, a place of high energy and possible link to extra-terristrial civilizations. lets send healing to the site love and light amit

Wednesday 09/25/2002 11:32:15pm Name: Karen City/Country: Florida, USA

Comments: It is the saddest day of my life as I sit here and read plans to destroy a wonderful living monument. Yes it lives in all our hearts and our imagination. For some of us it is part of our heritage also. My heart and soul are crying that ANYONE would even think about putting a road through it. It's the most horrible form of desecration one can imagine. I should like to be able to go there one day myself and with my children to show them a part of their heritage and let them feel the magick of the place as i have already felt it through pictures. Strange, but true the way i feel when i see it. Please, don't let this happen.....we shall all be sorry for destroying it because a change of this magnitude is bound to have serious repercussions unknown to any of us. May the Lord and Lady bless us and guide us to save our most precious monument.

Wednesday 09/25/2002 11:03:31pm Name: Carol Simpson (Calm Wind) City/Country: Verdun, QC Canada

Comments: Total and complete anger blinded me when I read what the British Government plans on doing with Stonehenge. Goodness only knows we don't need anymore highways. Why can't people just leave well enough alone. I know that this is another subject, but I'll vent anyway. It's bad enough, they're destroying or want to destroy historical sites, but Mother Earth is being killed too!! Doesn't anybody realize that She has feelings too!!

Wednesday 09/25/2002 9:40:53pm Name: Rose City/Country: USA [Image]

Comments: I can't believe anyone would actually even consider this! Why in the world would anyone take this beautiful, historical place and build a freeway through it! Even the thought of having a freeway next to it is an outrage! I am completely against it!!!!

Wednesday 09/25/2002 6:43:00pm Name: pat jones City/Country: carmarthen, wales

Comments: its a disgrace that this is going to be done to a site that is very important to many of us in this country, putting a road around it will only bring unecessary strain on the stones, it should not be allowed

Wednesday 09/25/2002 4:31:11pm Name: shanna City/Country: colton,Ca. U.S.A/

Comments: I find appalling that anybody would even think of touching the land surrounding and under stomehenge! A sacred site is a sacred site and that includes the environment around it. If you throw a highway and cars and gas stations and such around it well suddenly you have lost a lot of the emphasis on the site because it's serenity has been shattered. Why don't you go put a road under an Egyptian pyramid while your at it. Stonehenge needs remain untouched and revered for it wonderous construction which is still a mystery to us. It has awed and inspired billions of people. You want to make it less in the way. Millions of people would love the chance to meditate and perform ritual...why not put your time into figuring out how we can go back to using it for what it was constructed for but still protecting it from vandals. I am sure you can find volunteers to take appointments. Note that I have not mentioned charging people...that would be wrong...just simply appointments.

Wednesday 09/25/2002 11:04:34am Name: brian rhodes City/Country: Brisbane Australia

Comments: this has got to be an absolute outrage the whole of the peoples of celtic heritage must be turning in their graves wondering what is happening to this beautiful piece of WORLD cultural heritage. it must not be allowed to go ahead.

Wednesday 09/25/2002 7:42:12am Name: Jeff Rhoades City/Country: Longwood, Fl

Comments: It is extremely unwise to attempt this road you are making plans to build. Even though you may not intend to damage the inner circle at Stonehenge, I don't think you are aware of just how responsive to sound Bluestone is. Your innocent plans for a road would most likely wipe out what is perhaps one of our oldest sites. You will also be doing much more harm than you know. Stonehenge is one point on an energy grid that covers the planet. If you disrupt that grid, there will be a lot of repercussions. DO NOT go though with this road of yours!

Wednesday 09/25/2002 5:30:36am Name: Laura City/Country: Boulder, CO, USA

Comments: I have never been to Stonehenge. And as a celtic pagan, I want to, one day, go on a pilgrimige of sorts to this beautiful, mysterious place. It's always been a place of inspiration for me, and I want my children (if I ever have any), to see this sacred place as well.

Wednesday 09/25/2002 1:21:59am Name: Rebecca Taylor [Image] City/Country: NY, USA

Comments: I maybe a us citizen but hearing about Stonehenge being a debatable landmark for the progression of society is insane. Stonehendge is a peice of history, priceless piece. You CANNOT destroy that peice of history for a....Road..Go around if nessessary but to destroy a piece of history is to show how little you value history what people have thought in the past and accomplished in the past. To destroy that would be to destroy yourselves. I warn against all that trying to plow your asses though a historical landmark is insane especially when its protected. East aurora preserves the bricks of the old times that people trodded over with horses..cars drive on that and they work much better than pavement. In a short sum of this PRESERVE HISTORY! It's what makes someone great.

Tuesday 09/24/2002 7:11:56pm Name: Anne Dale City/Country: Durango, Colorado, USA

Comments: I feel complete outrage at the prospect of a large 4 laned road scheme baring down upon Stonehenge! My family and I spent 35 years driving to/from Somerset/London. I spent the last two years living in Somerset so my son could attend school there and drove twice a week up and down to London to work - part of the nature of the drive was to sit in the traffic jam heading into Stonehenge! People who live in Somerset/Devon/Cornwall - don't care about sitting in traffic coming into Wiltshire - it was NEVER an inconvenience to me, I just left home with plenty of time to spare. If they are doing this for the tourists - then they shouldn't do it! Local people would rather have the beauty of the drive as it has always been.
Gawd. What cheek! What's wrong with Great Britain these days that it has to dig up and diverse the countryside to appease the few? If people don't like the traffic around Stonehenge, then they should go to Disney World for their holiday!
I'm furious. How dare they even consider it? We live in the Rocky Mountains at present - and you should see the damage a four lane road does to the beauty around here! But then....what do Government contract people care about the land, forest's or the ancient ceremonial spaces left in the world today? Nothing.

Tuesday 09/24/2002 6:14:17pm Name: debs City/Country: england

Comments: For many years now,we pagans have been kept from the stones.Visitors have been kept from the stones and all because we "might damage" this most precious of sites. How the use of heavy machinery near the stones to create an unneccessary ROAD can be justified by the powers that be is beyond my comprehension!

Tuesday 09/24/2002 5:35:46pm Name: Ala E-Mail: City/Country: Essex

Comments: Don't do it! Ok.....its just sooo stupid to even think of doing that.

Tuesday 09/24/2002 3:48:04pm Name: Savarna/Silverwillowcry City/Country: Brandon FL U.S.A.

Comments: This is a place that needs to be saved for the future of are kids and all pagans around the world .May The Lord and Lady bless you. Mp Love~N~Light Savarna/Silverwillowcry )O( [Image]

Tuesday 09/24/2002 3:42:09pm Name: Sarah Irwin City/Country: Orlando/USA

Comments: Please do not desecrate what so many of us keep sacred. We wouldn't build a road through the Vatican so why would you build one through one of our sacred places? I think you should really reconsider the irreversable damage you will cause and how many people that may very well cease to visit the site because of simple ignorance. I have not had the opportunity to visit your beautiful countryside or Stonehenge, but it's a trip I plan to make in the near future and I'd like to be able to enjoy Stonehenge for what it is now and was in the past.

Tuesday 09/24/2002 3:04:22pm Name: Lorena City/Country: France

Comments: When I visited Stonehenge in 1975, it was a magnificent site on the Salibury Plains, sitting in majesty in the wide open space. For a time the site's been enclosed within a disgusting barrier supposedly for the purpose of "protecting" the great Stones. Now I hear a road or tunnel is going to be built around this beautiful natural landscape; what more harm can be done to desegrate what has been considered as one of England's most powerful landmarks? Some people need to have their heads examined...

Tuesday 09/24/2002 12:44:16am Name: Rebecca Holton City/Country: West Yorkshire, UK

Comments: It would be very short sighted to put a road so close to a unique and irreplaceable site such as Stonehenge. There is no guarantee that damage will not be caused to it and once that has happened we cannot turn back the clock and take it away.
Please don't build this road. There are plenty of places that roads can go but there is only one Stonehenge.
Rebecca Holton

Tuesday 09/24/2002 10:49:30am Name: LIZZY City/Country: LEICS, ENGLAND

Comments: WE CANT LET THIS HAPPEN TO SUCH A PRECIOUS GEM. PAGANS ACROSS THE GLOBE WITH HEADS HUNG LOW IN DISBELIEF AND OUTRAGE, STAND UP AND FIGHT! NATIONAL TRUST IS SELLING US DOWN THE RIVER......... BLESSED BE. *LIZZY*

Tuesday 09/24/2002 4:44:55am Name: Allison Glover City/Country: Carl Junction, MO, USA [Image]

Comments: I think EVEN going near Stonehenge is a travisty. It has been a worship place for us pagans for centuries. It would be like dividing a "Christian, or Catholic" church into two pieces and puting a large interstate highway through the middle of them!! We need to get this stopped now, before our beloved Stonehenge is RUINED!! Blessed Be, Allison

Tuesday 09/24/2002 4:13:21am Name: Heather City/Country: USA

Comments: I hope to visit Stonehenge someday. But to think that they would put a road so close to such a beautiful site and a part of thier haritege! That land sould be respected and not destroyed by modern development that probably isnt nessisary. Well there is my two cents.

Tuesday 09/24/2002 1:35:50am Name: Glenn Johnson City/Country: Merseyside

Comments: I was about to join the National Trust - thinking I may be doing some good in the world. Really , National Trust did we really have to sell the land that so many National Trust Members donated cash to protect all them years ago. And now your selling the land ? Whats going on - we will never replace something like Stonehenge.

Tuesday 09/24/2002 0:05:34am Name: Lori City/Country: Ocala, FL USA

Comments: Please don't be lose stonehenge!! Just stay stonehenge forever and look great value stones for history in many years ago, and you see for museum. I believe that more blessings!

Monday 09/23/2002 11:26:06pm Name: danette212 City/Country: kent/USA

Comments: I am a very proud magickian and think the stonehenge area should remain as is.. what are they thinking? believe me.. a whole bunch of other pagans, wiccans, and other magickians in america are getting very riled up over this and we are going to voice our support to not disturb this sacred place.

Monday 09/23/2002 11:10:58pm Name: Moon Maiden City/Country: Sheffield, England

Comments: Are they not just ASKING for trouble? I mean if people do not turn up in mass on site if plans go through - there will [Image] most certainly be a spiritual upheaval.

Monday 09/23/2002 10:19:37pm Name: Jeaniece and John City/Country: Martinsville, IN. , USA

Comments: I think what they are planning is totally unacceptable. Stonehenge is an historic site to more than just those that live in England. I know theyre not planning on tearing it down but putting a road through any part of the site would destroy the very nature of Stonehenge. Thank you for letting us have our say....... lil_2_feathers and Firenorth6

Monday 09/23/2002 8:06:09pm Name: Will Burrell City/Country: Regina/Canada

Comments: you have got to be kidding?!?! stonehenge, divided, and succeeding only in irritating visitors, tourists, and the like! people go there to see the beauty of that ancient monument, and to throw a highway right into it! well, that's just completely unsightly! i can't believe the nerve of them! gods! ugh. screw yourselves over if you want to, i don't care. leave stonehenge alone!

Monday 09/23/2002 12:36:21am Name: Flash City/Country: Melrose Fl USA

Comments: save this sacred land!!!!!!!!!!!!!In The Name of All the Ancient Ones

Monday 09/23/2002 1:23:13am Name: Barbara Whitney City/Country: Tacoma, WA USA

Comments: Do not tear apart any of the Sacred ground that surrounds Stonehenge. This is magickal and sacred to all of us who are pagan and spiritual. To encroach upon this land in anyway is likened to putting a highway by the Wailing Wall.
Please respect all belief systems, Christianity is not the only one, there are many who believe in a higher power but do not see it in the narrow-mindedness of those who would control others beliefs and spirituality.
Leave all the sacred spaces alone in this world as they are here for those who know their worth and meaning even if the bureaucrats don't.
Thank you,
Barbara E. Whitney

Sunday 09/22/2002 5:50:15pm Name: Christine City/Country: PA, USA [Image]

Comments: I visited there in 1985, I believe the integrity of the surrounding area should be maintained as is and keep the ground as sacred and peaceful as possible.

Sunday 09/22/2002 3:30:26pm Name: Stephanie Sagemoon City/Country: Arkansas, USA

Comments: I understand that a nation charged with the daunting task of preserving monuments that the rest of the world feel ownership in must be daunting. However, I believe that before something so destructive to the natural surrounding of Stonehenge is considered that perhaps the "common brain" of the world might be "picked" for a more environmentally-friendly alternative to this plan. While a traffic solution might be needed, there are OTHER options that must be explored.

Sunday 09/22/2002 6:20:47am Name: Heather City/Country: Southern USA

Comments: Is nothing sacred to the transportation industry anywhere? Oh how they try to sanitize the issue by assuring us that the circle itself will not be harmed. That's all well and good, but the site itself is sacred and a part of English history for generations to come. I support you all in protecting the surrounding grounds for this most amazing monument. May you be successful in your endeavors!

Sunday 09/22/2002 6:03:52am Name: Fran City/Country: Toronto, Canada

Comments: What a shock it was to discover this plan to disfigure such an important historical site ! It doesn't matter that the stone circle will not be touched; the surrounding area has always added to the magic of the place. I was lucky enough to see stonehenge over 10 yrs. ago, and it is sad to think that it will be so changed.

Wednesday 09/18/2002 10:46:36pm Name: sean goode City/Country: chilliwack BRITISH COLOMBIA

Comments: I THINK WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS WRONG BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING A HISTORICAL SITE NOT HISTORICAL ANY MORE SO I THINK THEY SHOULD STOP BEFORE THEY CAUSE SOME TROUBLE

Wednesday 09/18/2002 3:09:37am Name: Jared Neil City/Country: Greene/USA

Comments: I think that who's ever idea this is, to incage this monument, like it's a wild beast with iron, and steel, is an aweful idea, and this person has no heart. I a Wiccan, and what other people call "hippy" am shocked by this. I couldn't even think of doing this to anything. It means so much to me, and others as well. What will the world say? Do they know? If this was more advertised I bet there would be at least a thousand entries from each state of the U.S. We shouldn't have to sit around and watch our loving & mystical past just disappear. We don't even know everything about it. Would you want to lose what little we have left of our past? It might be the key to the world... By destroying it, you might destroy the world. CHANGE ISN'T ALWAYS GOOD! This new "religion" of greed, money, and selfishness, needs to stop, and it needs to stop now, before it causes the end of all humanity. I hope and pray that this day will never come. Please save the WHOLE area of StoneHenge! not just the stones, I agree with many other people, putting a road by it is bad enough, why put MORE practicly ON it! I don't think [Image] they should be able to put the tunnel under it either, what is so important about putting the road there? Couldn't they just go FAR FAR away from it? Mark it a Historical Monument, and let it be safe from construction, and destruction of our wonder in this world. Would you do that much to make a quick dollar? Please I hope that you aren't that ruthless, and cruel. May the goddess take pitty on you all if you disturb that monument.
~blessed be~ ~*pegasuswings*~

Tuesday 09/17/2002 9:17:21pm Name: Mar Bertol City/Country: Zaragoza/Spain

Comments: I lived in England for 14 months as an au-pair, but that was 18 years ago, and I must say that wondering around Stonehenge, what I did quite often as I was living in Amesbury, was one of the most pleasant things I lived in your country. It was just like running away from everything, ...just MAGIC. I go back to England from time to time and I would like to see the place as I remember it.

Sunday 09/15/2002 7:12:31pm Name: Laura Shafer City/Country: Abilene, TX

Comments: I understand the plan is to build around Stonehenge, but here are my thoughts. People are always searching, always looking for truth to the spiritual world, and Stonehenge is one of the last true doors to that world. Do you think it would have half its power or intimacy if you build steel and glass around it? Part of the reason it is so sought for is because its natural, its untouched, its free. In a world of time and bells and noise we all need somewhere to look and see that in the end we are all of the Earth, all connected to something ancient. I understand that our world will grow no matter what, but let some natural places at least stay that way, please....

Wednesday 09/11/2002 5:31:22pm Name: Kasey Beard City/Country: U.S.A

Comments: I agree that we should save stonehenge. I'm doing a report on it now.I'm fasinated by it.I have been to the website for the plan they have for stonehenge. It is cruel and heartless.I hope you can save it.

Sunday 09/08/2002 6:17:00pm Name: Joy City/Country: Warwickshire England

Comments: To put a fence around the site is bad enough. With roads close by that enclose the site already, is a crime.
But to entomb the site with a road is unspeakable and there are no words that can say how I feel. Being a new Pagan this is hurts me to my soul and feels as if they are encaseing my heart with cement. Do they know that it is not just the Henge that is blessed but the around it to.
Let them that do this know this we believe that for every good or harmful deal three times good or harm will come back, or to put it another what goes around comes around
Money is the new religion, all praise money, money is King, money is God, hail to money.
I end with something I loaned from another message, because this is how I feel.
Blessed Be and May Gaia Forgive Their Stupidity

Wednesday 09/04/2002 6:41:09am [Image] Name: chak balam City/Country: somewhere in the maya world

Comments: To destroy stonehenge is to destroy all humanity past, destroy our past is to destroy our future, without past we have no future... In lakesh! (Im another you)

Thursday 08/29/2002 2:50:11am Name: David M. E-Mail: City/Country: Greenup, KY, USA

Comments: Stonehenge is a historical monument that should not even be thought about ruining. Sure, the monument won't be destroyed, but the entire original purpose, the landscape, and the entire mood of the landmark would be.

Wednesday 08/28/2002 1:56:05am Name: Danielle Grffis City/Country: Massachuesetts

Comments: I think Stonehenge is an historical site and that anyone attempting to desroy it must be put to a stop before they suceed... why in the world would some one want to pave over a beautiful part of what people have worked hard to accomplished to make in our history ,sure its withered and falling apart but that makes it only more beautiful and shows how long its worked hard to survive and how much more it wishes to continue to stand tall and proud...Someday people will wonder about our history and Im sure we dont want to have what we accomplished forgotten

Sunday 08/18/2002 9:22:04am Name: Save Stonehenge City/Country: UK

Comments: Would readers of this board kindly please note that we are not going to publish any more messages that refer to destruction of the Stonehenge monument (as though the intention is to tear the stone circle down). That simply isn't part of the plans we're objecting to. (The Stonehenge Master Plan actually proposes the construction of a major new 4-lane highway through the World Heritage Site, plus associated "improvements" such as a new visitors' centre, other changes to access, and so on.) We don't want to confuse or mislead people and we've decided it's better to keep these messages off the board altogether than to publish them and keep putting little notes up saying "Actually, this isn't the plan", as we have been doing so far. We hope this doesn't cause any offence; if your message doesn't eventually appear on the board, that may be the reason why. Messages speculating about how the henge or the sacred site as a whole might be affected by the proposed new road are completely fine, of course.
Sorry if this sounds a bit heavy-handed. We get stick from people who accuse us of misleading our readers or peddling misinformation. It's hard to please everyone! :o)
Thanks to everyone who continues to contribute to the debate and to the many people now supporting our campaign around the world. The message is slowly getting out!
Best wishes to all,
Chris.

Friday 08/16/2002 7:35:17pm Name: B Clough E-Mail: City/Country: UK

Comments: Why is it that the USA & Canada have free access to national parks etc and here in "RIP OFF BRITAIN" we have to charge large sums of money and "IMPROVE" everything?? LEAVE THE STONES ALONE!!! Listen to the Public NOT Accountants! English Heritage Don't own the Stones they are merely keeper's of HISTORY!

[Image] Thursday 08/08/2002 9:31:02am Name: helen City/Country: new zealand

Comments: i may be from far away but stonehenge means a lot to me and my religion. im 11 years old and i believe strongly in my religion, i think that stonehenge should stay because me and about twelve other people that i know about have the same religion as me because of stonehenge and i know that all of us will treasure stonehenge for the rest of our lives. when we have children, and when they have children, and so on, they will all rely on stonehenge as i will have taught my children.

Sunday 08/04/2002 0:33:59am Name: Angel E-Mail: City/Country: USA

Comments: I don't think anyone has the right to destroy history, especially for something like a road. Stonehenge should be made one of the wonders of the world. It's a very mysterious place, it should be studied not destroyed. Protect our worlds treasures, if they are to be destroyed it should be by natures hands not mans.

Friday 08/02/2002 10:55:05pm Name: Forest City/Country: Merseyside

Comments: Isn't English Heritage suppost to be an organisation preserving such sites.
I am shocked to learn that they are willing to be party to such a grave act of wanton distruction and environmental vandalism of a site that they are charged to protect.
This scheme must be stopped, this is one of our most sacred sites, and English Heritage and the British Government must not and will not be allowed to destroy it at any cost.
Forest /|\

Wednesday 07/31/2002 10:05:34pm Name: Richard City/Country: Just outside London UK

Comments: Being a professional photographer, and digital image restorator, I found Stonehenge to be an amazing site for photography, with a different shot every time I visit. Don't the National trust realise that by destroying the sites' surroundings in this way, it can only be detremental to the amount of visitors? This seems very counter-productive to me.

Saturday 07/27/2002 3:55:27pm Name: Raven City/Country: USA

Comments: While searching for pics of Stonehenge to set as background on my computer, I stumbled onto the Save Stonehenge webpage. I have been a Pagan for quite a few years now, and I must say that reading what they plan to do, to what I consider the most holy ground, makes me sick to my stomach. It is my most fervent wish that the originators of this website succeed in their fight to maintain the Pagan Holyland. I have never been on a pilgrimage to Stonehenge yet, but I hope one day to bring my daughter to this mystical place and share with her what we all know to be one of the most facinating areas of land! Good luck in your battle to preserve this pristine landscape! Blessings to you all!

Tuesday 07/23/2002 9:03:52am Name: Lady Raven City/Country: California

Comments: As a fairly new witch (2 1/2 years), I am just learning of this worlds mysteries. To even hear about what thy want to do is appalling. I may have not been there physically, but in dreams I have been many times. you don't have to go there to feel its power Just look at the pictures, the power it holds is clearly there. Stonehenge is and always will be a sacred site and should be treated as such. like many others I too believe they should bring down the fence, so those to whom this site is sacred (myself included) may enter, and touch the stones, not allowing this, is just like not allowing Catholics to visit the Vatican. I would love to visit one day and when I do, I'd rather it be as it has always been. and not what they plan to do.

Saturday 07/20/2002 2:47:16am Name: Samantha City/Country: Canada

Comments: I went to Stonehenge just last year and I CANNOT believe this, this magnificent ppiece of history is going to be destroyed!!! How can they do that? How can the country let that happen??? I just can't understand! I thought that when you had a piece of history, still standing there, after all those years, you try to protect and not to destroy it! Why? Do they think they will make more money coz it's gonna be closer to the monument? Well, I'm sorry to break it to you, but it won't change a thing and, it will demolish that beautiful heritage...
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Sunday 07/14/2002 3:16:58pm Name: Howie City/Country: Glastonbury & Somerset

Comments: I find it difficult to understand your arguments for or against the route of the London to Penzance Euro-Route of the A303, through The World Heritage Site desinated around Stonehenge. This new intrusive dual carrigeway road system, is bound to carve a huge swathe of destructive processes through its intended victims landscape. The attitude of the Transport Ministry of Britains Government rarely changes from decade to decade,they are intent upon the cheepest deal possible, and will use any gobbly goop language with which to confuse and divide its perceived opposition, in order to win. Which it intends too.
From reading all of the messages in this book, it is plain that many of your writers have not yet fully understood what is about to happen(me, i have been at the front in the mud and the bullets of a range of battles to save our national heritage from the jaws of bulldozers at various road schemes, namely the M5,M20,M25,M26,also the A1M,A2,A5,A6,A10,A19,A20,A38, A130/131,A225,A303,A410 and other minor roads). And I charge you to explain it to us all, using the very best methods possible,including the use of quality mapping to highlight: 1) the actual total area and landscape of this World Heritage Site, all of its 5,000 acres. 2) where and what areas of this site are to be destroyed/disturbed or altered in such a way as to be detremental to the designated WHS requirements. 3)What the best solutions to these threats are, and how you and i can achieve these objectives. The liciencing of Ordnance Survey digital mapping costs �40 per image used per annum, not that much if it helps to explain in a visual way exactly what is at risk. Otherwise, Earth First are going have the most awful war, with the most expensive piece of road construction in the world in front of them. Yes, of course they are up for it, but it stands to reason that everyone should try to avoid that battle, because of the implications to the whole of our society structure/relationship with our own government and its officials, many of whom we are related too. We have not had a civil war for 353 years, for a lot of very good reasons. Even allowing for the 3rd battle of Newbury and other road protests in recent years, this development will be the largest of them all, in terms of a battleground to save Stonehenge. Stonehenge is percieved world wide on a totally different level than any other place in Britain. So lets work clearly together and achieve our goals.
Save Stonehenge writes: Thanks a lot for the comments Howie. I'm sorry you didn't find the arguments clear; I agree, we could present them better. There is a clear introduction in http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/ stonea.html, which includes construction diagrams (such as are available at the mo') and maps. (But the actual design hasn't been totally worked out and this information won't be available until the Environmental Statement is published in December (?) 2002.)
We used to give this greater prominence on our website and maybe we should again? One of the problems is trying to communicate just what will happen to people who did not witness, first hand, Twyford, Newbury, the M11 and all the other roads you refer to. In my experience, people never appreciate just how bad it will be until it hits them... by which time, of course, it is, as you say, far far too late.
But any ideas or suggestions you have for improving the site, getting the message over more clearly, reaching more people, or whatever would be really gratefully received (ditto to anyone else reading this). We're recently restructured the site so it's simpler for people and more "action-oriented", but I don't know if it works as well as it could.
Thanks again!.... Chris.

Saturday 07/13/2002 2:11:48am Name: Lynn Simpsom City/Country: England

Comments: A brief visit this year outside the visiting hours (an imposition in itself) meant I could not see what I had touched as a child. The view spoilt by fence, the road that never should have been built in the first place, guards (whom in the evening were walking around with radios and what were suspiciously like guns!), no place to casually stop and admire this wonder and all to perserve,,,,what?,,,,,not Stonehenge but only what Stonehenge has really come to mean to those supposedly "guarding" it - perserving their precious profits. That �5 fee multiplied by the thousands of visitors is.... some profit guys! No wonder you want to encourage even more commecial buildings with more saleable items, hide it from view or worse still build right next to it??? You have forgotton what Stonehenge is about - a religious site with deep spiritual meaning for those who care to look for it. Those folks dont need fake stones, buggy carts, retail outlets(Ronald MacDonald as a Druid?) and more entrance fees to what is essentially Mans' tribute to his Gods and the wonder of Life and Nature.... ours built by simple men to be enjoyed by all common men and FREELY. SHAME ON YOU!! Open the site up sensitivly, of course preserve the ground and habitat by all means But stop thinking about PROFIT! This site goes beyond mortal money!
Save Stonehenge writes: It's 800,000 people a year at the moment, Lynn, so it is indeed some profit!! Interestingly, English Heritage wants to *double* the number of visitors to the site. Because it wants more people to experience the place? Well, who knows? But for an interesting discussion of the implications of increasing visitors, check out a great article on our site called "The One Million and the One Hundred Thousand" by Christopher Chippindale - he of "Stonehenge Complete" fame.
Chris.

Friday 07/05/2002 10:44:01pm Name: Kelsey Jensen City/Country: Sibley usa

Comments: I can't believe that those a**holes are even thinking about touching stonehenge I think they should be put in prison
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Friday 07/05/2002 8:39:10pm Name: natasha City/Country: derbyshire UK

Comments: this place is far too powerful, amazingly beautiful to destroy. it is too heart, mind and breath-stoppingly awesome, to even think of thinking of even beginning to try and start to harm this powerful piece of history.

Friday 07/05/2002 3:09:01pm Name: Darlene Day City/Country: Nashville, IN USA

Comments: As a fairly new witch ( a mere 3 years), I am just learning of all the mysteries of this world and beyond. Please don't take one of the greatest mysteries of all time and "dirty" it up. Let it remain. All things will come to fruition in time--the people trying to scar Stonehenge will understand why they "should not" and we people trying to stop those will understand why we had to stop thoses that "should not". You can feel Stonehenge just by looking at pictures and studying about Stonehenge. I have never been there in physical person, only in "spirit". Knowing that Stonehenge isn't just a picture or relic, but really and truly there---real---sends a chill over me. Believe me, if the "powers that be" scar Stonehenge the whole world will feel the effect. Thank you, Blessings and Adventures!

Thursday 07/04/2002 4:06:51pm Name: Marjorie Donchey City/Country: Cape May Court House, NJ, USA

Comments: Nothing should be done around Stonehenge to adversely affect it in any way.